Oblivion talk:Vampire

I'm aware that some of the information here is wrong/incomplete. Due to personal issues, I haven't been able to log-in or work on this anywhere near as much as I'd have liked to. If I can, I'll try and add more information, and clear up what is wrong in it at the weekend. Aensland 16:24, 4 December 2008 (EST)

In relation to the above. I've re-wrote the intro a little, and added a heading of 'Vampire Classes'-- the information about Vampire Patriarchs/Matriarchs I've left out to be put in a section specifically about them. I've added a table listing the Classes, Races, Genders and Level Offsets for each of the primary types of Vampire (again, leaving out the P. and M. Vampires). Apologies in advance for the lower-half of that table: I'm out of time here, so had to do it quickly. If anyone wants to re-order them chronologically, feel free, otherwise I'll hopefully get to this at the weekend. Aensland 17:49, 4 December 2008 (EST)

I've added in the sections for: Vampire Matriarch and Patriarch. Modified the Table; added the Vampire Dust death item; Packages, AI Attributes; I've also done a few minor changes (Bullet-points, et cetera); and re-wrote the introduction to Vampire NPC bonuses/Vampire state. The following are still needed: Links Added; Pictures; general clean-up. I'm not sure how to add Links or Pictures, so would someone else be able to take care of this, if possible? I think for the pictures, we should try and get one each of a Matriarch and Patriarch, and maybe a general Vampire shot. As an asside, there's a 'bug' with Vampire NPCs and Modding-- specifically, if a script applies Vampirism to a non-Vampire NPC (i.e., adding an Ability with Vampirism 100), the change doesn't seem to take effect until there is a cell-reload. I wasn't sure if this was something suitable to put in, so left it out. Addendum. The changes to this article at 17:44, 5 December 2008, was me-- apparently my PC logged me out, apologies. Aensland 12:50, 5 December 2008 (EST)

Image Layout

The thumbnail size of the images on this page was altered because of a problem with layout. Some users have their default thumbnail size to be much larger, which makes the layout on this page a little funky. The same is likely to happen for users with larger resolutions (I'm at 1280 x 720, for instance). In the places where there are four images in a row, I see three images on one line and one on the next, and I can't imagine I'm the only one. I attempted to fix the problem by making it two rows of two, like this. The thumbnail resize helped as well. Either way, we have to keep in mind that people with different resolutions and settings are viewing these pages and something should be done to fix the rather messy layout that we have now. –Eshe^talk 21:44, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

And given the rather large nature of the page, having format conflicts doesn't help the page at all. That is why I decided to put defined sizes on the thumbnails. Other pages can be more lax, but given the multiple tables and images, I felt it was best to add it. —Elliot^(T-C) 21:46, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

But on the other hand, users who have set their thumbnail preferences to 120px or 150px because they have a slow network connection shouldn't be forced to download larger thumbnails on this page. --Nephele^Talk 21:49, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

True. The 2x2 should suffice for now, but it does leave quite a lot of space between sections. We should probably try to come up with something better, but for now this is much cleaner. –Eshe^talk 22:03, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Vampire Warrior

What are the odds that a vampire warrior will be wearing a helmet? The stats are there for the vampire knight, but not the warrior.204.108.237.194 18:51, 21 July 2009 (UTC)Marcus

avoid sundamage/resist 100% fire

IS it possible to avoid sundamage by using resist 100% fire — Unsigned comment by Erlend (talk • contribs) at 02:27 on 27 July 2009 (UTC)

No, since Sun Damage and Fire Damage are two different effects. --Elliot ^talk 02:27, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

does vampirism effect intelligence

I contracted the desease and cured it. Wnd ever since my intelligence has been crippled drastically — Unsigned comment by 206.53.157.63 (talk) on 10 August 2009

No. You must have been hit by a Damage Intelligence effect while you were infected. Get hold of a Restore Intelligence spell/potion or pray at an altar in a chapel. That will fix it. –rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 17:11, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

khajiit vampire

is it possible that a khajiit can become a vampire? — Unsigned comment by 24.32.60.120 (talk) on 22 December 2009

No Khajiit vampires are present in the CS, however if you play as a Khajiit you can become a vampire. See also: ob:Vampirism --SerCenKing ^Talk 16:51, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Vampire Class

It states under 'nightblade' vampire npcs that both Seridur and Jakben are nightblades, but Jakben's class is in fact a spellsword.

rpeh's Health/Magicka edits

First off, thanks to rpeh for providing the info. On the other hand, I agree it is cumbersome to say the least. Ideally, we should aim for a single value, although I'm not sure how that would work out, also given the existence of three variants. I can see something like what I'm proposing was done by Timenn here and by Eshe here and here. Thoughts? --SerCenKing ^Talk 18:01, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

There's a problem doing it in the same style. On the Dremora page, the NPCs are either one fixed level or have a small range of levels (1-3 for the Churls), which means it's easy and correct to specify a value for health and magicka. On the Heretic and Zealot pages, the values we have are, quite simply, wrong. I'd never noticed before but since the NPC is leveled, so is the health and magicka. Those pages will need something similar to what I added to this page, which means we need to find a better way of displaying it. rpeh •T•C•E• 08:51, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Vampire Aggression

I would like someone to give me the statistics of a vampire's aggression towards people and whether or not becoming a Vampire effects how they react to you. Thanks

if you search for the name of the NPC you can mostly see to the right the NPC's agression and other information. your not famous new guy here: 112jesse 13:47, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Vampire Dialog

After using charm 100pts on Vampire Monk she said: "Well met", but when I did this while wearing Gray Cowl of Nocturnal she said: "As I live and breathe! The Gray Fox! It's an honor." That's strange, she was acting like Thieves Guild member. Same for other Vampires. 79.139.6.147 14:34, 30 August 2010 (UTC) Nohus

Any NPC with 50 responsibilty or less will respond with simliar dialogue while wearing the Cowl. Bandits, marauders, highwaymen, all of them will react in the same way. --S'drassa ^•T2M 02:09, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Fort redwater

In the first section of fort redwater, I came across a vampire mage. I was invisible, but decided to try talking to her, and after greeting me, it went to the options (Rumors) screen. I'm a 75% vampire currently. I'm not sure if this is a glitch, it also happened with some bandits when I spoke to them, while being invisible. 144.137.196.97 07:18, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Forgot to mention, She I can sleep while she's next to me, and her disposition to me is 100. 144.137.196.97 07:22, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

It can happen. If you have a high personality / fame, the disposition of normally-hostile NPC can be high enough so they won't attack. It's arguable whether or not it's a glitch. You could say that these NPCs should always attack, but then again you could argue that somebody so likable should be able to talk to them. rpeh •T•C•E• 08:23, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Not my Fame, I'm at 360 infamy lol, but yes, I have a high personality level. Now it's happening with 75% of the "hostile" people and creatures though lol 144.137.196.97 08:14, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Turning NPCs into vampire

Is there any way to do this using the console?

i hate vampires!!!

my wood elf was infected for 258 days out of 692 because the vampirism quests glitched up so i had to eventualy buy the vile lair expansion with the special pool to cure your vampirism, was there any way i could have done something else to cure my guy???— Unsigned comment by Charlie 3rd (talk • contribs)

Not unless you play on PC. Legoless 17:18, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Protection

Is there any way to protect yourself from getting infected from vampires — Unsigned comment by Jamz slack (talk • contribs) on 26 March 2011

Get your Resist Disease stat as high as you can. rpeh •T•C•E• 09:28, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

Actually, doesn't PH ignore that?--Ghurhak gro-Demril _{or TAO}^Yes? 09:34, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

My bad, you're quite right. Resist Disease doesn't stop PH, so the only way to avoid it is not to fight vampires up close. rpeh •T•C•E• 09:43, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

You should also save, alot --Candc4 20:45, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

The best way to avoid vampirism is indeed to save outside caves/dungeons when you know you're clean, and use ranged weaponry to kill them. This can include bows and Magicka, but in many cases, a claymore is long enough to keep them far away. After all, you get Porphyric Hemophilia when they hit you, not when you hit them. Resist disease can't work, because the probabilities are automatically recalculated seperately, and paralyzing vampires is impossible. So, either stay away from them, or stay light on your feet and kill them without them touching you in combat. "Invisibility on self" might help temporarily in some cases. - Neural Tempest 20:53, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

How about using burden, a good burden spell might work --Candc4 20:57, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

A "good" burden spell usually has to be stupidly powerful to have any effect. NPCs almost never carry enough stuff to be anywhere near their weight limit.Legoless 21:38, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

This is True, but I have a question does weakness to magic work to make burden more powerful --Candc4 04:41, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

I think not, if you cast a weakness to magic spell, or use a potion with a similar effect, it will only increase the damage the target recieves 112jesse 13:55, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Vampire Race

Shouldn't this page list something about the unused vampire race, or should a separate page be created for that? The Oblivion:Races article lists the stats, but doesn't mention the vampire NPCs seen in the CS (one example being Juggler from Shivering Isles). Legoless 21:43, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

I've wondered that too...I think that it probably should be documented somewhere, as they are in the game files if not used. It could probably be added on either page, but I would tend to lean towards races, with appropriate notes and links here. --DKong27 ^{Talk Cont} 21:51, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Enemies ?

"This faction ensures that they are allied with Undead, but also ensures that they are bitter enemies of any Necromancers and Liches."

When I did the Order of the Virtuous Blood quest there was a Lich near the vampires and nobody did anything like they all worked together... Also, I've seen necromancers 'hanging out' with the vampires and in this case nobody fought... I assume that all undeads just like each other... — Unsigned comment by 74.65.227.150 (talk) at 07:53 on 8 June 2011

Vampires don't mind Nether Liches, which is probably what you saw. As for the necromancer thing, you are either incorrect or encountered a weird bug. The faction relationships were pulled straight from the game files via the Construction Set, which is (almost!) always right. Legoless 12:56, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Too much clothing?

Hi, I was going through Ninendava and I encountered a male Vampire Sorcerer and I searched his body. For some reason, it says that he has equipped a black & burgandy outfit AND an ebony cuirass! He appears to be wearing only the black outfit, so can somebody please explain this to me?!?! 68.150.5.60 17:58, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Vampire Related Quests

Shouldn't the quest "A Brotherhood Betrayed" be put in the vampire related quests section? --anonymous— Unsigned comment by 76.105.153.12 (talk) at 00:32 on 30 November 2011

There aren't actually any Vampires in the quest, despite the claims made by the so-called Hunter. --DKong27 ^{Tk Ctr Em} 23:39, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Vampire that's friendly

I went into a vampire dungeon and came out because The vampires started to attack me. once I got outside the battle music stopped playing And I thought something was wrong so I looked around. I saw a vampire sorcerer that was friendly to me. I tried to wait but it said that enemies were nearby. my fame is 26 and my infamy is 4 216.145.135.95 20:12, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

vampire matriarch

can you become a vampire matriarch or patriarch if so how?— Unsigned comment by 76.17.29.169 (talk) at 22:42 on 1 March 2012

I'm afraid not. You won't be able to join any vampiric ranks at all in Oblivion. Wolok gro-Barok 22:56, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

'Ello, beastie

I saw a mention of a "Vampire Beast", but I cannot fond such a thing. Does anyone know why? --184.88.12.130

As the page says: "Such a vampire-type enemy has a 50% chance of being a Vampire, a 33% chance of being an Undead and a 17% chance of being a Vampire beast (either Rat, Wolf or Timber Wolf)." Kitkat ^{•Talk•Contrib•E-mail} 22:44, 15 July 2012 (UTC)