UESPWiki:Archive/CP Roleplaying to Userspace

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This suggestion was originally put to everyone here and got initial support - but then nothing happened. I think that it should be put to a vote here whether this is actually implemented or not.

So what are your thoughts on the following?

M(ove)T(o)U(serspace): Do you agree with the move in the first place?

Adoption: Should we allow adoption of existing sub-articles or should we start over?

Begin Now: Do you think that there should be a waiting period before this is implemented or should we simply begin adoption/creation?

Improvement Period: If we choose to allow adoption should there be a waiting period of a week or two if something is not adopted to allow it to be improved? If so what should the waiting period afterwards be to allow people to see that the article has been improved? Should this expire on it's own or should it begin after the first improvement is made?

Adoption Period: Assuming we choose to allow adoption how long should the period be before something is declared unadopted and deleted?

Anyway this is just my thoughts on the matter. If anyone thinks that I added too many sections or left something out put it here. Also if anyone has an alternative proposal suggest it. I'm not set on this one.--TheAlbinoOrc^{any_questions?} 17:40, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

My thoughts:

• MOU – Yes, certainty. The roleplaying pages create clutter and disagreements Plus they're mostly user-centric, un-encyclopedic, and somewhat messy.
• Adoption – Yes, we should allow adoption in order to preserve the work of past users. A sudden disappearance of these pages may cause confusion and / or anger.
• Begin Now – No, I believe that there should be a waiting period in order to collect opinions and to allow users collaborating on the roleplaying pages to plan and prepare.
• Improvement Period – Yes, I believe that there should be a two-week waiting period for improvement, following by a one-week period of peer evaluation in order for experienced users to help inexperienced users.
• Adoption Period – There should be a two-week adoption period. After that period ends, we assume that there isn't anyone who cares about those page.
• Overall plan – Users will be given two weeks in order decide whether they wish to adopt an abandoned roleplaying page. After those two weeks end, any unadapted pages without any recent revisions will be deleted. After those deletions are complete, the adopters would be given two additional weeks in order to improve the articles. This would be followed by a one-week peer review period in which users would collaborate with experienced users in order to make further improvements. If the roleplaying page is significantly improved, we'll consider the improvement a success and move it to the userspace of the adopter. If the adopter doesn't significantly improve the article (the meaning of "significant" is up to a peer reviewer), we assume that the adopter doesn't actually care about contributing to the page, and the page is deleted. After five weeks, there shouldn't be any roleplaying pages in any namespace other than the userspace.

That's all for now. --Michaeldsuarez ^{(Talk) (Deeds)} 14:59, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

What are your thoughts on the Improvement Period? Also I'm adding a new category I didn't think of at the time.--TheAlbinoOrc^{any_questions?} 18:05, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Whoops. Didn't realized I missed that. I've added them in. --Michaeldsuarez ^{(Talk) (Deeds)} 14:48, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

I think that something should be done about the Roleplaying articles, they are horrible right now. I'd like to get the horn to 'attack' the roleplaying pages. Meaning, edit without mercy. Really, though, they are by far the worst thing on the wiki right now. --Arch-Mage Matt^Talk 04:41, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Just a reminder in case this got lost in the recent changes - only three people have commented on this (and only one of them actually voted on the proposal) so we don't really have any consensus on what to do. If you have thoughts on this now's the time.--TheAlbinoOrc^{any_questions?} 17:27, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

It tends to discourage people when the answer isn't just a yes/no, which is probably why you haven't gotten a lot of feedback. (Not that I'm one to talk about over-complicating posts.) Here's my feedback:

• MTU: Unqualified Support!
• Adoption: Support. It's certainly nice to keep the existing work, but starting over would have the benefit of trimming out the cruft. In the end, though, I don't want to deprive anybody of maintaining ideas that they're really attached to (and ultimately, users could just cut & paste to user-space at any time anyway), so I think adoption is probably the way to go in the end. Users also have the option to multiply adopt, taking the same initial article in multiple directions according to each user's preferences.
• Begin Now: Support. Why wait?
• Improvement Period: Oppose. If someone wants to take the time to improve something, they should probably be the one to adopt it, so I don't see that this would necessarily be useful. If someone adopts something and then decides they don't want it, they can Prod it. Anybody else who was attached to it can always move it to their own space if they disagree with the prod (or ask for it to be undeleted and then moved to their space, if it goes that far).
• Adoption Period: 2-4 weeks. This seems like plenty of time for people to realize what's going on and copy out anything they like. If I recall correctly, we also have the possibility of using site banners now, so perhaps we can do that to maximize the focus on it and make sure that the Admins don't get flooded with undelete requests later on.

– Robin Hood↝talk 18:12, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

I'll support anything that gets Roleplaying to a less-prominent place on the site. rpeh •T•C•E• 08:23, 21 August 2010 (UTC)