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Morrowind:Roleplaying...?

I think that there should be a Morrowind:Roleplaying page just like there is an Oblivion:Roleplaying page. Any thoughts or reasons why there isn't one already? I wouldn't otherwise ask for permission to create a page, it just seemed odd to me that there wasn't one when I looked. --HMSVictory 11:49, 22 December 2007 (EST)

It probably hasn't been created because most regular editors think that the Oblivion Roleplaying article is one of the least helpful and most problematic pages on the site. See for example all of the discussions at Curing Stupidity or a similar question that came up a while ago on my talk page. Articles such as Roleplaying are not encyclopedic in nature and the point of the wiki is to provide encyclopedia-style information on the Elder Scrolls games.

That said, however... no, you do not need to ask for permission before creating a page. And we try to be tolerant of the variety of different ideas about what type of content people would find to be useful on the site and therefore do not delete information that some readers might find useful. But don't expect an enthusiastic response if you proceed with the idea. --Nephele^Talk 12:17, 22 December 2007 (EST)

Well, the Oblivion Roleplaying page seems to be very popular, so think I will set up the page and take it from there. Don't worry, I will make sure it's taken down if people start objecting! -HMSVictory 12:20, 22 December 2007 (EST)

I really hate the Roleplaying pages. People should be smart enough to be able to have fun in their own games without needing advice from other people. Plus, Oblivion: Roleplaying works because the editors who edit on there are likely only editing there. Frankly, its just a waste of space that is only tolerated because as soon as it gets deleted, someone would just make another thing somewhat like it. There are more important things to do with Morrowind than make a role playing page. Get to work on that instead and then after Morrowind is "perfect" you can add a roleplaying page. --Timmeh ^Talk 12:43, 22 December 2007 (EST)

In the immortal words of Frankie Howerd, "Nay, nay and thrice nay!" The Oblivion Roleplaying page has probably the worst signal to noise ratio of any page on the site. In other words, for every half-decent suggestion there are a dozen stupid ones and the page acts as a magnet for bad spelling, poor grammar and just plain badly-written posts.

If you were to take a vote of the patrollers and admins that have to clean up the page you'd probably get a majority in favour of deleting the Roleplaying section totally. Certainly the various discussions that have taken place on IRC have failed to produce anybody willing to defend it! The only reason there hasn't been an on-site discussion about deleting the whole lot is that we all recognise the amount of work that people have put into it. That said, however, I can't see anybody regarding the creation of an equivalent page for MW with anything other than blank horror.

Lastly, is there even any need for such a page? Most of the ideas will work in both games and don't need a Morrowind-specific page and the ones that don't... well tough. Let's keep the site as the encyclopedia it's meant to be. —Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 12:44, 22 December 2007 (EST)

Well, your points are very valid. But personally I have found the Oblivion Roleplaying pages to be quite inspiring. They are very good to look over when one has run out of official quests or has reached 100% completion. The pages are very badly edited, but I am sure that there is a way to control this. And besides, compare this to Willyhead's "Creating an Awesome Character" and "Guide to Destroying the Imperial City" and it seems very reasonable. --HMSVictory 13:17, 22 December 2007 (EST)

My big problem with this is that there are so many neglected pages in the wiki that should be more helpful. I've been the only one working on Daggerfall for some time now, which is understandable with the lack of editors who have Daggerfall, but Tamriel:Factions is still a mess and that is something that anyone can help out with. The Morrowind main quest is also not as helpful as it should be, but you are suggesting that we make a Role Playing page that (if it helps anyone) helps the people who have completed the Main Quest and are bored. I say we fix those issues before we get into "how to make the game more fun". --Timmeh ^Talk 13:30, 22 December 2007 (EST)

Sorry --HMSVictory 13:33, 22 December 2007 (EST)