Tamriel Rebuilt:The Proud Redoran
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Quick Walkthrough[edit]
- Talk to Tuls Varalaryn in Bodrum's tradehouse about preoccupied, debt and Treram Varalaryn.
- Speak to Treram Varalaryn about his debt and either:
- Convince him to talk over a bottle of mazte (req. 40+ disposition).
- Persuade him to tell all (req. 75+ disposition).
- Either:
- Deposit the outstanding 250 gold in Treram's chest.
- Speak to Tuls, Treram, then Tuls (rewards Varalaryn House Amulet, 1x Goya)
- Or:
- Travel to Andothren, speak to Eleanor about the debt, and either:
- Settle the debt with interest.
- Persuade her to waive the interest with 85+ disposition.
- Persuade her to waive the interest while at Lawman rank or above in House Hlaalu.
- Persuade her that she'll never make her money back (requires 60+ Mercantile).
- Intimidate her into waiving the interest (requires 70+ Strength).
- Return to Treram, then Tuls (rewards Varalaryn House Amulet or Third Barrier Belt, drinks).
- Travel to Andothren, speak to Eleanor about the debt, and either:
Detailed Walkthrough[edit]
Tuls, the trader of the Varalaryn Tradehouse in Bodrum is preoccupied. Speaking to him about this will reveal his concern for his father, Treram, who is wallowing in a debt that he refuses to speak of. Asking about the debt will see you invited to intervene - Tuls has the notion that his father will be less ashamed talking about his troubles with strangers rather than neighbors. Agreeing to help will immediately see you given a bottle of Mazte to aid in loosening Treram's tongue.
Go down the stairs by the tradehouse entrance to find Treram on the lowest floor. You'll need to ask him about his debt, but his disposition towards you will determine his response. At below 40, he will reject all enquiries. At 40-75 he will allow a conversation on the topic. At 75+ he will tell all.
It transpires that Treram is indebted to a Hlaalu moneylender in Andothren named Eleanor, and while he has accumulated the sum he initially borrowed, he has been caught out by the interest she has added onto the loan.
From here you can head straight to Andothren, but you may wish to speak to Tuls about Eleanor first, as he'll give you 20 gold towards travel expenses. He'll also raise the idea of stealthily depositing the remaining 250 gold that Treram owes in his chest. If you choose to do this you'll save yourself a trip, but lose the 250 gold. Theram's room is on the bedroom floor of the Tradehouse, and is the northwestern chamber. You'll need to bypass a level 60 lock. Once you've deposited the money, speak to Tuls about the debt, and then Treram to receive the gift of an amulet. Speaking to Tuls a further time will reward you with a bottle of Goya.
If you choose to travel to Andothren, you can find Eleanor in the Hlaalu Council Manor, on a balcony overlooking the main chamber. Talk to her about the debt topic. You'll then be able to either pay the debt off yourself, or try to convince her to drop the interest. To achieve the latter you'll need either to have 85+ disposition, be of Lawman rank or above in House Hlaalu, or convince her that she's better off accepting the money without the interest, with 60+ Mercantile. Alternatively, if you have 70 or more Strength, you can intimidate her into waiving the interest entirely. You can of course also complete the quest by killing Eleanor, but this will result in no reward from the Varalaryns.
Once the debt is settled, return to Treram for your reward (and Tuls for a bottle or two for your troubles). Treram's reward will be his house amulet if you took on the debt yourself, or a Third Barrier Belt if you simply got the interest waived.
Bugs[edit]
- Attempting to intimidate Eleanor with 60-69 Strength will result in a dialogue loop.
Quest Stages[edit]
The following Journal ID and Index codes can be used with the Journal
console command to manually update the quest to a certain point.
The Proud Redoran (TR_m4_Bd_RedoranDebt) | ||
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Index | Finishes Quest | Journal Entry |
10 | Tuls Varalaryn, the publican at the tradehouse in Bodrum, told me that his father Treram Varalaryn owes a substantial amount of debt. But the old man refuses to even talk about it with anyone in town. Tuls suggested that he might open up to an outsider, and I agreed to talk to Treram. He thanked me, and said it might be wise to bring his father a jug of Mazte first. | |
20 | I was able to convince Treram Varalaryn to tell me more about his debt. He borrowed 500 septims from a Hlaalu moneylender in Andothren named Eleanor. Treram claims that despite now having the money he owes her, Eleanor wants to collect 250 extra septims, bringing his debt to 750. Treram keeps the money he has saved up in a chest in his room at the tradehouse. | |
21 | I have secretly deposited the additional 250 septims that Treram Varalyn needs to pay off his debt into his chest. | |
25 | Treram Varalaryn was offended when I offered him the gold necessary to pay off the rest of his debt to Eleanore. He told me to leave him alone, and that he will settle the debt himself. | |
30 | I have killed Eleanor, the moneylender Treram Varalaryn was indebted to. | |
32 | Eleanor will let me pay off Treram Varalaryn's debt if I bring her the full 750 septims he owes her. | |
33 | I have paid off Treram Varalaryn's debt to Eleanor in full. | |
34 | I was able to persuade Eleanor to waive Treram Varalaryn's extra 250 septim debt. He now only owes her the 500 he initially borrowed. | |
36 | Treram Varalaryn has discovered that I stole from his chest. When I told him that I used the money to pay his debt to Eleanor, he was very upset and dismissed me. | |
37 | Treram Varalaryn has discovered that I stole from his chest. He attacked me. | |
40 | I told Tuls Varalaryn of Eleanor's death. He was unsympathetic to the moneylender's fate, although he worried that House Hlaalu would still come after his father's debt. He gave me a jug of greef and suggested that I don't tell his father about this. | |
46 | Though reluctant to admit it, Treram Varalaryn was grateful that I convinced Eleanore to drop the extra payment. He rewarded me with an enchanted belt that he bought with the money he borrowed. | |
50 | Though reluctant to admit it, Treram Varalaryn was very grateful that I cleared his debt to the moneylender. He rewarded me with a family heirloom, an enchanted amulet. | |
54 | I told Tuls Varalaryn that I deposited the money his father needs to pay off his debt into his chest at the tradehouse. He urged me to go back downstairs and check if Treram Varalaryn already discovered the money, and to return to him for a reward after. | |
55 | Treram Varalaryn has discovered the money I placed in his chest. To pay forward this charity he has received 'from the gods', he gave me a family heirloom, an enchanted amulet. | |
56 | Tuls Varalaryn was very grateful that I found a way to give his father the money he needed to pay off his debt. He rewarded me with a bottle of expensive goya. | |
60 | Tuls Varalaryn was very grateful that I settled his father's debt with Eleanor. He rewarded me with a bottle of expensive goya. | |
61 | Tuls Varalaryn was grateful that I managed to get Eleanor to drop the extra debt she had imposed on his father. He gave me two jugs of Sujamma to celebrate. | |
63 | Tuls Varalaryn was relieved that I settled his father's debt, but he was disappointed that I stole from his chest to do it. Still, he gave me a jug of mazte for my efforts. | |
65 | I killed Treram Varalaryn. | |
70 | I let Tuls Varalaryn know that I killed his father. He became very upset and attacked me. | |
80 | I killed Tuls Varalaryn. |