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is paarthurnax evil? — Unsigned comment by 203.104.11.14 (talk) at 02:48 on 15 November 2011

No. — Unsigned comment by 186.232.46.66 (talk) at 06:14 on 1 June 2012

One of the themes of the game seems to be that being too inflexible in goodness can be counterproductive. The Blades are demanding the death of Paarthurnax even though his contribution was indispensable to humankind's victory over the dragons, in much the same way the Vigil of Stendarr tries to wipe out all daedra, regardless of the fact that some of the daedra, such as Meridia and Azura, are "good" in human terms. 174.6.51.17 00:30, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Killing after the main quest

You can still kill Paarthunax after the main quest has finished, the quest to kill will not show up in the Journal though, once he is dead it will re-appear and tell you to speak to Delphine, this was on Xbox360 Danilovz 12:25, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

I'm unable to kill Paarthurnax after having defeated Alduin on PC. I can talk to him about murdering him, but when I actually try and go through with it he just flies upwards, lands and regenerates all his health. Getting him down to 0 health makes no difference. :( Tentacle 11:33, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

He did this with me too, i was using a Bow though and continued to shoot at him as he took off, after a 2-3 arrows the battle music started and i killed him. I also calld Odahviing to help me. Danilovz 23:03, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

It's possible my being able to kill him was just a glitch on the 360.. Odahviing makes references to Dragons probably not liking his Tyrannical Rule compared to Alduins Lordship.. eh.. either way, he's dead in my game. Danilovz 23:29, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

The Tyrannical Rule being refered to by Odahviing is the enforcement of the Way of the Voice on other dragons that are willing to listen IE one of peace and meditation. So I am not sure which side you would prefer but I think it is because Odahviing isn't too keen on being peaceful. A20052005 18:33, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

I think the 'Paarthurnax's tyrannical rule, Alduin's lordship' speech was the closest thing to a joke I've heard a dragon make, referencing the fact that Alduin forced dragons to serve him whereas all Paarthurnax did was sit on a mountain and preach to anyone who would listen. I think Odahviing was being ironic. Still, he could have been serious. It's hard to tell from his voice and face.

(←) I don't think that this actually unlocks the sidequest for new Blades members, as I've got that from Delphine straight after returning from The Throat Of The World to ask Esbern if he knows where an Elder Scroll might be. 202.61.163.197 11:17, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, the recruitment side quest is independant. Tentacle 11:33, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Delphine and Esbern won't talk to you after this quest has been initiated. After I killed paarthurnax it gave me a side quest to recruit new members of the blades. w/e — Unsigned comment by 24.1.194.164 (talk) at 17:07 on 20 November 2011

That's because it was available before, but wasn't available during. I believe it's unlocked after you complete Season Unending. Tentacle 08:03, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Untrue. I managed to get Rebuilding the Blades right after The Throat of the World, as well as the quest to bring a Dragon Bone and Dragon Scale to Esbern (although that quest is stuck in my journal, despite being complete - likely a game-specific bug.) Found this out in an attempt to finish the Blades quests without having to harm Paarthurnax eventually. 112.201.196.17 14:48, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

(←) Not sure whats different in my game but i didn't realise i was on the final main quest chain when i started it, i've just finished, i had not killed paarthurnax and the quest now isn't in my questlog. Going to track down Delphine and Esbern and see what happens. Thankfully i have saves back before i started the final run but will still be slightly annoying if i've bugged something and have to go bk. - Killerchronic 20:40, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Nope, they speak as though its still possible to kill him but i have no quest except the return to Esbern one. Gonna try for the kill anyway but most likely i'll be popping back to an old save. - Killerchronic 20:55, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Hey, you have to go talk to Arngier, and change your decision with him to "Paarthurnax must pay with his life." I was having the EXACT same problem as you, I had originally told

Arngier I wouldn't be killing Paarthurnax, I changed it, talked to Esbern and then was able to kill Paarthurnax. I also used destruction magic to initiate a battle, not sure if that made a difference.

-Anonymous — Unsigned comment by 67.190.4.17 (talk) at 00:38 on 3 January 2012

so i decided to try and kill Paarthanax for the following reasons:

1.) i want to have a permanent place where i can find my hireling, Kharjo

2.) i do not want to keep on paying 500 gold on some mercenaries like Marcurio

3.) i wanna get radiant quests where i get to kill dragons (for some reason, at level 55, dragons have been avoiding me)

i thought about it and eventhough i like Paarthanax, i just realized that i never used any of his blessings (duration is too short and the buff doesn't really turn the tide of battle) and that i tend to consult wikipedia for Dragon Shout locations rather than going back to the Greybeards to help me with them.

i also read Paarthanax was an essential and cannot be killed after defeating Alduin. i don't know... i went to him, started attacking, and when his health reached zero, he flew to the air. i tagged him with a Dragonrend shout,while a Frost Dragon landed beside me and attacked. i killed the Frost Dragon, and could not find Paarthanax.

After the battle, i saw 2 sets of dragon remains, and one was Paarthanax's body... i even looted it. i just thought it was strange because i do not remember killing him, and if i did, i believe i should have absorbed 2 dragon souls instead of one.

it really is strange. i wish they would fix the quest bug... or better yet, just give us the option of a truce instead of having to resort to console commands to do it.

Personally, i really like Paarthanax's character, and i wish i did not have to kill him just so i can have more options in the game. -- Rei - 125.60.240.225 18:25, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Page naming

It might be better to make the page Paarthurnax (Quest). --TheNerdMiester 02:55, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

When a character and a quest have the same name (as in this case), is there a standard over which page gets which name?

I may be wrong, but I would guess that more readers clicking on links or doing searches would be looking for Paarthurnax the character than Paarthurnax the quest. Should this page be renamed to "Paarthurnax (Quest)"? Should the character page be renamed "Paarthurnax", or should it stay "Paarthurnax (Character)" and have plain old "Paarthurnax" be a disambiguation page? Chris3145 20:26, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

I don't think it hurts too much either way. The quest page will obviously link to the character page and vice versa, it doesn't hurt to have to click an extra link. --Lyco499 (talk) 23:12, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Not too much of an issue, maybe, but it does still bother me that a quest named after a character takes precedence over the character. 95.206.3.238 12:45, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

I'd much rather see a disambiguation page at Paarthurnax, and appropriate pages at Paarthurnax (dragon) and Paarthurnax (quest) Kerrick 04:05, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

I agree. Every single time I've come here by search, I was looking for the character page. timrem 02:21, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Reward

Is there any direct reward for killing him? Other than the Blades simply talk to me again? Because I've beaten it once now and went off to quest, I -never- had to talk to them again, but I have gone to Arngeir to get Word locations. So he's technically more useful.-Zydrate[][] 17:30, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

There are some side quests for the Blades that involve recruiting new members. I don't know if you get any items or money for killing Paarthurnax (either immediately or after the Blades quests). Also, Arngeir still gives you word wall locations after you killed Paarthurnax? I guess he really is sworn to assist the Dragonborn. Chris3145 18:28, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

No, my point was I didn't kill him, I'm just wondering what the "other side" is like.-Zydrate[][] 18:52, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

I see. After a certain point, one faction will talk to you and the other won't. If you don't kill him, Greybeards give you Word Walls, and the Blades won't interact with you. If you do kill him, the Greybeards won't help you, but the Blades have quest. Killing vs. not killing is how you choose a side. Chris3145 18:56, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Alright, that answered my question. Quests vs. Reliable word walls (As opposed to shouting in a town and hope it was enough for someone to notice). Hard choice indeed.-Zydrate[][] 20:26, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

I got the quest (bring followers) before I even started this mission, just by speaking to the Blades after we found the Wall; nobody has ever even mentioned killing Paarthurnax. (also, you can shout inside your house and you will still get noticed.) 124.170.15.129 21:43, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

If you are so worried about choosing a side based on usefulness, spend a few hours getting all the word walls from Angeir then kill Paarthurnax. Mattrimkevx 00:29, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Paarthurnax Bug

When I tried to kill paarthurnax he wouldn't die, his health just goes to zero and he doesn't die. When I hit him he just flies up then lands when he usually sits on the word wall. Is there anyway to fix this? . I'm on the quest The Fallen when you "prepare trap for Odahviin" if that makes any difference. Edit:I just reloaded a save and tried again and it seems like as long as you don't talk to him and tell him the blades sent you to kill him and instead just attack him outright he dies. --Ohnoitsmangofett 23:03, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

I had the same problem even after reloading several times. Someone else mentioned that he seems to be invincible when he's sitting on his word wall. So, after a few reloads, I realized I was doing enough damage on my first hit that he couldn't fly off. I equipped a weapon that does less damage (untempered Kahvozein's Fang) and hit him a few times and he finally took off and the battle proceeded as normal. I don't know if that's really what the problem is, but it worked for me. — Unsigned comment by 173.18.1.212 (talk) at 03:59 on January 21, 2012

Bug?

Moved from article:
After the Main Quest is completed the quest to kill Paarthurnax disappears, but you can still complete it to continue the blades quest chain (note: it seems that's there is no quest chain).After the dialogue with Paarthurnax when you return from killing Alduin Paarturnax will fly off, use Dragonrend to make him land again, then if Paarthurnax lands back on the wall he is unkillable but to get around this keep attacking him even after his health bar disappears and eventually he will fly off and become a combat target, then use Dragonrend and he will fall to the ground dead.
Anybody understands what this means? --Krusty 17:16, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

I think the user was trying to kill Paarthurnax during the scene after returning from Sovngarde. --Legoless 20:57, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Only One Acceptable Outcome?

Why do I HAVE to kill Paarthurnax? Can't I just say no can fail the quest? It feels sort of bugged because I can ask Delphine or Esbern about it but I can't outwardly say no, though if I talk to Arngeir, I can tell him either I will or I won't. -Lord Malus DCLXVI 00:47, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I said this on the other wiki. It's just bull because the blades are supposed to fall in line to the dragonborn and not the other way around. I even got angry enough to start slicing and dicing. (Sorry, no account!) — Unsigned comment by 114.76.185.137 (talk) at 00:56 on 8 December 2011

Personally, I would have killed Delphine & Esbern if given the choice… even in 'Season Unending' they essentially took credit for putting Dragonborn on the right 'path' as if he wouldn't have gotten there without them, not to mention the Greybeards were there first. They did nothing that the Greybeards couldn't have done & the only thing that maybe useful come out of the story with them is Dragonbane. Frankly, it would have being better to let the blade die out & start something new. Without the dragonborn, they might as well commit suicide. One less Genocide cult to worry about. 202.156.9.10 12:09, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

There's a lot of this, well, dickheadedness in the game's characters.... part of the plot seems to be showing what happens when you bind yourself to a position too rigidly and don't allow for circumstances. The Blades' attitude toward Paarthurnax is similar to that of the Vigilant of Stendarr to the Daedric Lords -- just a blanket "bad bad bad" and out with the weaponry, without ever considering the details. --174.6.51.17 20:18, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

This is one of the few quests (save guild questlines and Main questline) where you have no choice in whether you start it or not. I realized right after starting The Fallen that I had not done anything else with the Blades, so I went to visit the new home I acquired for them. All the items and chests were suddenly theirs and all I could do was steal stuff; even before I started the quest (in my journal at least). This should have been one where you get a persuade option to avoid the issue, because otherwise Esbern's bugged potion and free armor for followers is NOT worth killing Paarthurnax for me. I'd rather eradicate the Blades so everything in the temple isn't theirs anymore. You can't even tell Esbern that Paarthurnax trained the heroes who defeated Alduin before. I'm pretty sure he earned a pardon fighting for the Nords despite their extreme distrust during the rest of the war. Esbern should want to meet him, not kill him. They both love to chat, after all.--Playerseekingbugs 07:52, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Selling Bones and Scales to Esbern

This is in the article

"On the other hand, the Blades will talk to you again, and you can sell Esbern any Dragon Bones and Dragon Scales you take to him."

I've killed Paarthurnax and have gotten no such dialogue. What triggers being able to sell scales and bones to Esbern? — Unsigned comment by Mkxv (talk • contribs) at 15:53 on 10 December 2011

Why does it matter anyway, not like you can't sell bones and scales to every single other vendor in Skyrim --Lyco499 (talk) 08:15, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

It matters because this is a wiki, first and foremost. 95.206.17.147 11:41, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

You can't explicitly sell them to him, but you can give him some in order to create a potion. It gives you a permanent buff, but I've been unable to pinpoint exactly what it does... Tentacle 17:00, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

The buff it gives is increased damage against dragons, source is this wiki. (Killerchronic 04:21, 16 December 2011 (UTC))

The potion/poison is bugged; so killing Paarthunax has no positive outcome other than the Blades TALK to you again. Who cares about them talking to you?67.168.149.21 05:53, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

(←) I killed him after I heard Odhaaving's speech about lordship an Way of the voice: the way of the voice is for men and mer, not dragons, and considering paarthurnax's "they will hear my voice whether they want it or not" speech, i guess the tyranny is a family trait. If bethesda decides this dragonborn will "go south to rule the empire" like the other ones, i would like the blades by my side. Also cause his name means Ambition Overlord Cruelty, I think he teaches the Dovah the way of the voice for his nature calls him to lead the Dragons,probably mentoring the Dragonborn for the only reason that he missed the strenght to kill his brother. Yunvich 18:56, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Paarthurnax said he would make them *listen* to him. He doesn't say anything about forcing them to learn the Way of the Voice, which I doubt is possible anyway. Odahviing tells you that most dragons won't follow Paarthurnax and Alduin has already said that Paarthurnax is too weak to do anything. As for his name, I doubt dragons name themselves. I met a dragon named Viingturuth and I don't think a dragon would call himself 'Wing Hammer Black' You are also forgetting that Dragons are the one and only masters of the Voice. It is their language and their magic. Humans were given it in a extremely limited form by the gods so they wouldn't go extinct. The Dovahkiin are the only ones capable of mastering it, because they *are* dragons. As a final note, when Alduin and Paarthurnax are fighting, Alduin asks Paarthurnax to join him. Paarthurnax clearly and loudly says "Never again!" He knows how it feels to be oppressed. — Unsigned comment by 120.145.15.162 (talk) at 04:53 on 8 January 2012

Need for clear and decisive pro and con list

I really think this page would benefit from a clear and decisive list of the pros and cons of each choice (killing Paarthy or not) I know someone has already given a basic outline (the grey beards tell you the locations of word walls and the blades give you recruitment quests) but there's the "letter from a friend" to factor in (and if your addicted to Whirlwind Sprinting everywhere like myself, you've had a great deal of those) plus the fact you can constantly visit the grey beards and ask for word wall locations before this point (by then I had 19 shouts, 3 of which I was missing the last word for and the rest I had all the words) so unless the grey beards give ANYTHING else they seem like only a good choice for people who have rushed through the main quest or just been lazy with the word walls. But then what exactly do you gain, specifically, from gaining members for the Blades? I think this would be helpfull to anyone not sure about which choice to make, which to be honest includes me. I'm standing at the choice and though I'm hardly lacking the words (I can easily look up the location of my 3 missing words on here) I still don't want to kill Paarthurnax. The page on here for the Rebuilding the Blades quest is annoyingly empty of anything but quest notes, but the last quest note does say to ask about dragon lairs. Does that mean the blades will be able to point you toward the lairs of any dragon priests you haven't killed, or dragon mountains with word walls or what? I find it such a nonsensical choice to foist on the player, as someone else stated, the Blades are meant to help the Dragonborn, not command him. I'm rather confused, but I think I'll probably let him live. Damn me for getting so childishly caught up in fictional politics lol. --Lyco499 (talk) 08:24, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

It's a stupid quest. You get no real in-your-face rewards for picking a side, the only thing that happens is that one side will talk to you and the other won't. Pick the Greybeards, and you get stronger Shouts and the locations of Word Walls, which you can find via the 'letter from a friend' technique. Pick the Blades, and you get a potion that doesn't work and a few buddies when you go dragon-hunting, which you can get anyway from the Companions. They tell you the lairs of the dragons, but not the dungeons where the Dragon Priests are, whereas the Greybeards will eventually point you to both. In the end it comes down to personal choice, whether or not you believe that Paarthurnax deserves to die for the deaths he caused long ago or if you think he's redeemed himself. — Unsigned comment by 120.145.15.162 (talk) at 04:53 on 8 January 2012

Use of console commands

Is it possible to use Console Commands on the PC to make Delphine and Esbern believe that Paarthurnax is dead, without killing him? I don't want to kill him, but I don't want to leave the Blades either. — Unsigned comment by 90.227.196.219 (talk) at 12:16 on 19 December 2011

If you type in "setstage mqpaarthurnax 100" (without quotation marks), this will effectively complete the Paarthurnax quest without killing Paarthurnax which only consisted of talking to Delphine and Killing Paarthurnax. The only thing you miss is the post dialogue where she just says something along the lines of "glad to have you back on our side". This allows you to have Paarthurnax alive and continue with the blades quest line. [This was done on the PC after completing the main quest line] — Unsigned comment by 68.100.210.27 (talk) at 21:27 on 26 December 2011

Easy fight?

So I decided I would kill Paarthunax, so I went up to the Throat of the World and started attacking him. He just sat there saying "Speak, I will listen" over and over. He wouldn't attack me. I brought his health down, but he was still alive. So I jumped on him and attacked once, which played a "special" kill cut scene where I jumped on his head and stabbed him. I looked it up, and he's supposed to fight, be he didn't for me. Any one else with similar things? --Darkened35 19:18, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

I think it might be a glitch relating to the coding Paarthurnax was given to stop him from becoming hostile when you use the Fire Breath Shout on him. Or maybe his control over himself is so strong he won't give in to his 'draconic instincts' even to save his life. 120.145.15.162 04:53, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

I killed him

While sat on the wall parthnx seems invincible and flies in the air when his health drops then he recovers. if you him him while he is in the air a couple of times this starts the battle sequence. — Unsigned comment by 86.183.220.141 (talk) at 14:27 on 28 December 2011

whan start talk with esbern there is BUG

Esbern give me this text

About Paarthurnax... (whan i select it he offer me next text)

Why does he need to die? (whan select that he send me back on start of talk ----> About Paarthurnax...)

and coz of that i cnt start quest — Unsigned comment by 109.93.157.151 (talk) at 20:54 on 11 January 2012

I only had the option of "About Paarthurnax" AFTER receiving this quest, so are you absolutely sure you don't already have it? --Mikey^talk_email 06:46, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Advantages ?

you Kill Paarthurnax What quest's do you get from the blades and are they useful and if u dont kill paarthurax what word walls do you get from the Greybeard's. >Demon< 21:26, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

What are you saying, from what I'm guessing your sayings, blades fight with you tell the location of dragon shrines, graybeards tell any dragon words.Br3admax 21:33, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

,even you....

I'm not saying the player is a dragon, Paarthurnax just said you mustt fell the urge for power, rephrase it for me.--Br3admax 15:15, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

"...all dragons, even you..." would imply that the player is a dragon. Would "he acknowledges that all dragons thirst for power and that bthe Dragonborn shares this thirst..." be better than what I changed it to? --Velyanthe 15:25, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Perfect, or at leatst good enough.Br3admax 16:02, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

The Dragonborn is not physically a dragon, but s/he is "one of the dov," and is specifically so addressed by Paarthurnax. 174.6.51.17 00:36, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

How to not get this quest?

On the page it says: "It is entirely possible to recruit three followers for Delphine and receive the Dragon Infusion potion from Esbern before being given the quest to kill Paarthurnax." Anyone please care to give exact indications on what exactly to avoid doing in order not to get the quest and manage to finish blades quests? Thanks LukeH 07:56, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

there is a narrow window of opportunity during the Alduin's Wall quest where you can start the blades quest line with Delphine before having to deal with the decision to kill him. i missed the window, but it's all that came up when i was looking for way around having to choose, and this is all that came up. theres a youtube video showing how to do it. — Unsigned comment by 184.57.4.40 (talk) at 04:21 on 17 February 2012

About Paarthurnax-Life, death, and prevention

If you want to kill Paarthurnax, it would be reccommended to do it before facing Odahviing, or at least before going to the final temple before the final boss. If you want to keep Paarthurnax alive, the only things you lose are a few quests. If you want to kill Paarthurnax but still have the Greybeards talk to you and/or you want the Blades to ignore you, OR you want to keep Paarthurnax alive but have the Greybeards hate you, don't bother. It's impossible. If you want to keep Paarthurnax alive, the Greybeards keep helping you, and the Blades keep talking to you, use this console command: setstage MQPaarthurnax 100 It will be as if he was killed everywhere except the mountain in which he lives. — Unsigned comment by 108.41.140.100 (talk) at 21:56 on 26 February 2012

Quest WILL disappear...

Not sure if this is just on the XBox 360, but this quest DID disappear from my journal upon completion of the main quest without killing him, so correcting the article to say so (if this is specific to the XBox 360 feel free to correct me). 67.161.147.136 16:45, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

The quest DOES disappear, but it is still doable and will show up as complete after you kill Paarthurnax. Unsigned - 23:22, 8 May 2012 (EDT) — Unsigned comment by 74.107.68.172 (talk)

If you get the quest after the civil war is over and you've killed Alduin, the quest never disappears unless you actually kill Paarthurnax. XBox here. @kretik (talk) 17:35, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

setstage MQPaarthurnax 100 causes bug now?

I've used the setstage command to make the Kill Paarthurnax quest finish without actually killing him (he's the only dragon in the game that I really like, I just couldn't get myself to kill him.) However, at least since 1.5 patch, this means that Arngeir will NOT tell you any more word wall locations. I am not sure what "The Greybeards will still be hospitable." is supposed to mean, but losing that one feature makes them rather useless later. Using 'resetquest MQPaarthurnax' fixed that for me.. since I used that, Arngeir tells me word walls again. I haven't checked for the reaction of the Blades yet, though. WooShell 14:21, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

By using the value 50 you can hear Delphine's end of quest dialogue. Then the quest will complete just like using a value of 100. Esbern will let you complete any dragon hunting quests you have as well. Have not been back to Arngeir yet, so don't know if he will give word locations yet. — Unsigned comment by 69.254.61.110 (talk) at 20:39 on 18 April 2012

I just used "setstage MQPaarthurnax 50", talked to Delphine and the quest completed, then used "resetquest MQPaarthurnax", and the Greybeards are friendly as usual, and the blades are friendly again.82.41.162.196 22:23, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Change in Quest

i think that patch 1.5 makes the Greybeards hostile upon the completion of the quest, which means if the quest is completed by any way, such as using a bug to complete the quest without killing Parthurnax will still make them hate you, since the quest itself is completed — Unsigned comment by 41.254.3.101 (talk) at 16:19 on 20 April 2012

On the PC my patch version is 1.5.26.0.5 the setstage MQPaarthrnax 100 consol command and stayed on good termas with both the Blades and the Greybeards - Buford — Unsigned comment by 76.125.186.220 (talk) at 21:28 on April 29, 2012

During The Fallen

I want to be able to recruit members into the blades, however i forgot to pick that quest up before i got the quest The Fallen. Is there any way to get the quest for recruitment even though I am at the point where they initiate Paarturnax? I have no saves from before The Fallen. — Unsigned comment by 69.37.38.77 (talk) at 17:48 on 20 June 2012

Once you reach the point where they insist on giving the quest, you cannot aid the blades and vice versa, in any way, including adding members, until Paarthurnaax is dead. The quest to recruit for the blades is given the first time you talk to Delphine after entering Sky Haven Temple. The Silencer speaks^Talk 00:26, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Bug with Season unending proceeding normally?

I have Dawnguard and the USKP installed, and even after killing Paarthurnax and being told off by Arngeir, asking him to host the peace conference plays the dialogue as if I hadn't killed Paarthurnax. The journal updates indicate that the quest can be continued normally for me even though I killed Paarthurnax. Can someone else confirm this? I'm sure it's either Dawnguard or the USKP that causes it, but I would like some confirmation. ThuumofReason (talk) 14:02, 5 September 2012 (EDT)

After disabling USKP, the same thing occurs, so either the peace conference will still happen, or Dawnguard adds a bug to that effect. ThuumofReason (talk) 20:00, 5 September 2012 (EDT)

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