Skyrim talk:Easter Eggs/Archive 7

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Possible Star Wars Reference?

At thew start of the Hermaeus Mora questline, He says to you, "Impressive, most impressive...." (Darth Vader reference) to which you have the option of responding, "I'll never join you...." (Luke).

No. ThuumofReason 12:45, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

I, for one, can name many movies where a line said either exactly, or really close to that is used. I doubt it is a reference to Star Wars. Samantha Sorrow 13:23, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

And exactly how many movies other than The Empire Strikes Back are the two mentioned lines used in the same fight?

We said no. Give it up. ThuumofReason 21:57, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

The actual line that Hermaeus Mora says is, "I have been watching you, mortal. Most impressive." The first "impressive" of Darth Vader isn't there. That said, there are certainly some similarities to Star Wars—such as Hermaeus wanting you to replace Septimus, which is comparable to the Emperor wanting Luke to replace Vader—along with some fairly similar wordings to the movies in those few lines as well (e.g., "Many have thought as you do" vs. "Obi-wan once thought as you do", et al). Nevertheless, I don't think the similarities are quite close enough to be considered an unambiguous reference. – Robin Hood↝talk 22:50, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

God of Thunder

When you leave Ironbind barrow through the Ironbind barrow overlook (to the right in the final room) and head north east to the top of the mountain, you'll find a pillar with a dwarven head on it, two chests on each side and a dwarven warhammer of thunderbolts. This must be a reference to Thor, the god of Thunder with his hammer of thunderbolts.

Looking at the CK, the item is a randomly enchanted Dwarven Warhammer. It does not always have an enchantment of thunderbolts. --Velyanthe 19:53, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Sweeney Todd

The Daedric quest Skyrim:The Taste of Death involves the consumption of a holy man. Despite the unfortunate lack of pies, I think this may qualify as a reference to Sweeney Todd. One of the more popular songs in the play is "Try the priest", in which the main characters extoll the virtues of the flavor of men of the cloth. I'll admit it's not the most blatant reference and could well be coincidental, but it's an interesting coincidence if it is one. --Theothersteve7 20:00, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

You're right, it is an interesting coincidence. We get about 3 such coincidences proposed here a day. ThuumofReason 21:57, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Geeze, dude, you might want to take a break from this page. You sound like a wiki editor shot your dog and deleted your save files. --Theothersteve7 22:04, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm going to say no to this as an egg. I looked at the quest, and it seems that only a priest is eaten. No mention of eating cats, shaving, eating poets, eating lawyers... If at least one of those had also been mentioned I think it might have a chance, but with only eating a priest--and not even in a pie--I doubt there is any connection. --Velyanthe 22:22, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Harry Potter Deathly Hallows Symbol

On the mission where ***SPOILERS*** you are going through Mercer's house, if you drop down into the sewers on the walls of the hole you can see the stick with the triangle around it and a circle in the middle.---AG Dominator DL---

Was it a Shadowmark? I doubt that Shadowmarks are references, though they have a similar theme. --Velyanthe 23:20, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Yes, it's definitely a Shadowmark ("Danger"). Not quite the same as the Harry Potter symbol, but there's certainly a resemblance. As Velyanthe says, though, I suspect the similarity is unintentional, as there are numerous variations on that theme in Skyrim. – Robin Hood↝talk 00:38, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Structure of this page

Most game wikis put Easter eggs and pop culture references on the individual pages rather than a centralized list. That seems to me as more useful and interesting to the reader. This page is, in my humble opinion, a bit of an eyesore. It's also what other editors are likely expecting. Why aren't we doing that on this wiki? --Theothersteve7 17:39, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

I couldn't agree more. The only question is what everyone else thinks. ThuumofReason 18:11, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

I have seen other wikis do this, such as WoWwiki. I think a page such as this would be great to keep, though I am neutral to adding it to individual pages. There are some pages that include at least a link to Easter Eggs on the page, though it appears as though they're all from older games. If you wanted to propose a change, it would belong on the Community Portal. I don't know if it's been proposed before. --Velyanthe 21:07, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Various ideas have been thrown around before, but no decisions have really been firmly established that I can remember (which isn't saying much, considering my memory <g>). I definitely agree that separating Easter eggs from pop-culture references is a good idea, as that's probably the biggest source of confusion/debate there is when it comes to adding references/eggs/whatevers to the page. – Robin Hood↝talk 22:51, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Exactly. And isn't the Oblivion page separated into sections like that too? We could just split it up into a section for overt references like, say, the bit about "It's a secret to everyone" and a section for traditional eggs like the Pac-Man thing that are hidden. ThuumofReason 12:46, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Fallout 3 perk reference

from Character Creation page, gender: "[...]. Also, there is a quest that provides you with the added bonus of dealing more damage to the opposite sex." It is direct reference to fallout's perk Lady Killer/ Black Widow which is giving 10% bonus to characters of opposite sex. — Unsigned comment by 89.204.138.153 (talk) on 25 February 2012

It's not an easter egg or a reference. It's just a simple consequence of the same developers working on both games. The Bethesda developers introduced it in Fallout 3, liked it, and decided to keep it in their next game. It's no more of an easter egg than the entire skill perks system. --Nephele^Talk 01:10, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Star Wars Episode 3

I was playing through and a finisher for a Bandit was the guy fell to his knees and, with me dual-wielding swords, crossed them by his neck and chopped his head off. I remember seeing this from Star Wars when Anakin and Obi-Wan had to save Chancellor Palpatine, Anakin chopped Count Dooku's hands of took his lightsaber and, while dual-wielding his and Dooku's, chopped off his head. Could this be a Easter Egg?— Unsigned comment by 50.129.63.204 (talk) at 04:07 on February 28, 2012

I doubt it; I have seen the same thing (crossing swords to decapitate, on the ground or not) in other movies/video games, even in books. It hasn't stood out to me and so I can't remember it well enough to point out specific examples, but I doubt that this is an Egg. --Velyanthe 21:01, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Doubtful. ThuumofReason 00:41, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

William Blake (again)

There was a post in the archives regarding an extensive commentary which stated I put too much into my interpretation extending from Watches-the-Roots, I truly do think that the entire quest comes from there. To answer the question of whether Blake is obscure, as one stated, the enterence to the General Electric Building has a piece of art directly inspired by Blake's "Ancient of Days" engraving. So, we have established that he is not remotely obscure as one of the largest Media conglomerates has chosen his literature to decorate the front of their building. As for the rest of the interpretation in the archives, the creator intentionally included the perk of "Ancient Knowledge" and made it improve smithing. This is a direct citation of the idea that knowledge is metal "cast into the expanse ... [taking] the form of books arranged in libraries" in Blake's work as Watches-the-Roots also calls Avanchenzel a library. Blake's reference probably comes from the Zohar, the 13th Century foundational text of Jewish Mysticism, originally, in reference to the passage titled "All of Israel Saw the Letters." The person raised the objection that there are disembodied souls telling the story and this contrasts with Blake saying there is no soul. I don't know how to account for the dream sequences, they are memories, not souls, as souls do not perform tasks over and over again which they did in life anywhere in most mythology. Additionally, From-Deepest-Fathoms is still alive and is represented in the dream sequence, directly suggesting that they are not souls, because she has not died. He's probably right that it's more an allusion for those "in the know" of mystical literature, rather than an "Easter Egg" which is usually casual, and carries little philosophy with it. In game references to the Zohar may appear in the book Sithis. You folks can strike my contribution at any time, however, there is not a "deep philosophical allusion" page, just an Easter Egg page, which is why I put it here. Bloomingdedalus 01:55, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Seriously? The egg is on the main page and, to my knowledge, no one is talking about striking it. While I still think you went a little overboard in your analysis and certain portions of your reasoning are a stretch, the reference is staying put. Just relax. DeeLow 19:37, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Sometimes less is more. -Vardis 18:12, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Neverwinter Nights 2

Among Cicero's ramblings while idle he appears to reference the infamous option to set Cain the bard on fire after the lute contest in NWN2: "Ha, ha, ha, hee, hee, hee. Drape that lute across my knee. And if the bard should choose to fight, why then I'll set his clothes alight!" — Unsigned comment by Ashvelvyn (talk • contribs) at 06:36 on 29 February 2012

The Battle For Wesnoth

The Battle for Wesnoth is an underrated high-strategy war-based rpg downloadable from the internet that features Pvp maps which are internet compatible, a map creator, and "main story line" campaigns. In the "Descent into Darkness" campaign, a young mage named Malin learns necromancy from a misunderstood, yet vengeful sorcerer named Darkin Volk in order to protect his village from an orcish invasion. In the end, as necromancy is greatly frowned upon by any circumstances in these humans Malin becomes a fugitive, hunting orcs and goblins with his mentor. After Malin finds that Volk has deceived him, he kills him and goes on fighting both orcs and humans at this point. In a great battle against a horde of orcs, Malin takes a poisoned orcish dagger. Now near death, Malin uses the book that Volk used him to retrieve, but now possess from killing the necromancer to become a lich. From this point onward, he raids against the war's troops and its heroes. This is similar to the Skyrim character Malyn is a Dunmer who got expelled from the college of Winterhold after conducting questionable research involving soul gems. He finishes his research in exile with a small group of followers which results in the trapping of his own soul in Azura's star; he gains immortality. The player crosses paths with him in the quest "Azura's Star" where, with the help of Azura herself, he/she must find the artifact he used to trap his soul, and either kill his soul by entering, or cleanse the star. The first, and most obvious way of recognizing this as an Easter egg is by the character's name's being only one letter apart from each other. In addition, as there is no common way for one to become a lich in the elder scrolls series, Malyn's case of immortality matches close enough. Finally, the presence of Malyn's bones matches the words of the book that Malin reads in Descent into darkness "in order to become a lich, one must first die". — Unsigned comment by 173.69.145.73 (talk) at 16:30 on March 1, 2012

I personally do not think it is. The way that they both become immortal isn't that similar, and there are a number of fantasy settings that require one to die before or during the process of becoming a lich, Forgotten Realms being one of them. The names being similar could be coincidence... I do not see a strong enough connection to assume a reference. --Velyanthe 21:56, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Beauty And The Beast

On the quest The Mind Of Madness, the Pelagius Wing in the Blue Castle (Solitude) could be a reference to the West Wing of the Beauty and the Beast movie. They're both in a state of disrepair, and are both somehow forbidden at first; since there's people that tell the player not to go to the Pelagius Wing, and in the movie, the Beast tells Belle not to go to the West Wing. Actually, what the Pelagius wing looks like, is similar to how the West wing looks like in the movie. Could be an easter egg. — Unsigned comment by The Germ (talk • contribs) at 18:40 on March 1, 2012

I could say the exact same thing about the wings of Crossroad Keep in Neverwinter Nights 2 (though they're only forbidden due to a state of disrepair). I doubt it's an Egg. --Velyanthe 23:53, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Seconded. There's not enough here to qualify as a reference. ThuumofReason 00:40, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

I think it's just a trope that the Western, left, or sunset side of a building is the 'sinister' side. It's significant and interesting, but just not an Easter Egg. Ashvelvyn 00:20, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Hidden Chests

There are chests hidden under the ground in Whiterun, Dawnstar, and I believe Windhelm. Would this be considered an easter egg or something else?Trevor1324 16:36, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

They aren't an Egg, they contain merchants' stocks and are there for functionality. --Velyanthe 16:41, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Of what I've seen the items inside get stronger as the player levels up, making them seem more like a secret hidden by Bethesda. But I guess what you're saying makes sense.Trevor1324 19:48, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Some merchants' goods are leveled, so that would explain why the items get stronger. If I remember correctly, the chests are named in the CK as some sort of merchant stock chests. --Velyanthe 20:49, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

I see. But maybe we should put them somewhere in the wiki(not necessarily as an easter egg).Trevor1324 22:09, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Already done. --Velyanthe 22:19, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Pokémon Draco Meteor

On the Pokémon series, there's a move called "Draco Meteor", that can only be learned by Dragon types, which summons comets from the sky to inflict damage. Alduin, when the Dragonborn fights him, also uses comets to inflict damage. A dragon attacking with comets isn't something common, and happens in both games.— Unsigned comment by 177.30.159.221 (talk) at 17:48 on 3 March 2012

Even if this were a reference, which I don't think it is, it's not even remotely hidden. -Vardis 18:09, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Some Easter eggs aren't exactly hidden, and even if you see this one, you can't get the connection so easily — Unsigned comment by 177.30.159.221 (talk) at 18:28 on 3 March 2012

While it's not a hard-and-fast rule, a good rule of thumb is to look for more than one similarity. A dragon launching a comet is odd, yes, but is there anything else that would support an association as opposed to this being two game designers who simply had the same idea? – Robin Hood↝talk 20:35, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Possible timeless miracle reference

Sinding, the nord werewolf from the quest: Ill met by moonlight, could be a possible reference to the song Return of the Werewolf by timeless miracle. It is possible, because in the song, it tells about a little girl that is hunted down and ripped apart by a werewolf. Sinding is also a werewolf, and also supposedly ripped apart a little girl, so his story might just be a reference to the song. If you don't believe me listen to the song, then compare the events with sinding's crime.— Unsigned comment by 99.33.214.19 (talk) at 00:26 on 4 March 2012

The song talks about "little red" being killed on her way to grandmother's house. Aside from the victim being a girl, this isn't similar. -Vardis 01:51, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

The song does have an obvious reference to little red riding hood, but still, the fact that in the song "Little Red" was torn to shreds by a werewolf, and in the game sinding transformed into a werewolf and ripped a little girl to shreds is pretty similar, and most Easter eggs in skyrim that I've seen don't give a gigantic obvious clue about what they are referring to. The little girl sinding killed could have been wearing red if she had existed in the game. It's not possible to tell what she looked like. All I see is the fact that in the song and in the game , a little girl was killed by a werewolf.

Wow, I don't know where to start. First, there has to be more than a passing similarity to constitute a reference. From what you described, this is completely coincidental. Second, even though the working definition of "easter egg" is still up for debate amongst editors, it's understood that in order for it to be considered a reference, and therefore eligible for inclusion on the page, there has to be enough supporting evidence to ensure beyond any reasonable doubt that the connection was intentional. "Giving a gigantic obvious clue about what something is referring to" is not only what easter eggs (as defined for our purposes) DO, it's their defining characteristic (again, going by the wiki's current definition). ThuumofReason 21:01, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Could be a coincidence, I openly admit that, Just seemed a bit similar to me. What I mean by "Gigantic obvious clue" is that if you were to bump into an Easter egg it wouldn't be similar to what it's referencing to the point where you would know what the reference is the minute you bump into the easter egg.

Blood on the Ice, Possible Allusion to Frankenstein/Bride of Re-animator?

I'm wondering if anyone else thinks that either Frankenstein or Bride of Re-animator (or both) may have inspired Blood on the Ice? Basically all three have the theme of creating a living person from dead body parts of other people, and in both the creator of these constructs (Dr. Frankenstein and Dr. Herbert West) justify what they're doing on various philosophical grounds. In particular I think that the story of Bride of Re-animator is very similar, because he is trying to revive a specific person using the heart taken from their dead body, along with pieces from others (already dead); in Blood on the Ice the journals suggest that Calixto is using the heart of the person he wishes to revive. -- Haravikk 21:41, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Oh, I forgot to also mention that in Bride of Re-animator (and the whole series), Herbert West is fixated on what he's doing on the grounds that it's an all new science, which Calixto appears to be convinced that he's doing as well. -- Haravikk 21:46, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

I don't think so. The whole necromancy-as-a-means-of-bringing-back-a-loved-one thing is a pretty common theme in fiction. This could just as easily refer to Faust VIII from Shaman King. ThuumofReason 20:47, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

True, but with Bride of Re-animator there are further similarities as I mentioned. In particular, it's not just about bringing back a loved one, but bringing them back using the body parts of others. Likewise in Bride of Re-animator, Dr. West is using the heart of the girl he's seeking to "rebuild", which Calixto seems to be doing as well; building a new body around it from his various victims. He also exhibits a similar fanatic devotion to his great work. -- Haravikk 17:04, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

It seems to be a more common theme in fantasy these days. Yes, there's Frankenstein that started it, but then it's in Shaman King, it's in Dragon Age II, etc. Dragon Age II particularly seems quite close to the storyline. It's almost like saying that vampires are all references to Dracula, especially if you have to kill them with a wooden stake. It's kind of a reference, but it's also a common thing. --Velyanthe 17:27, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

The theme of necromantic revival is definitely a common theme, I'm not denying that, my point is that Bride of Re-animator has more than this in common. Now I don't know what happens in Dragon Age II (first game was good, but not great, so second didn't tempt me) but the whole idea of creating a new body from pieces using the heart of a specific individual is in common, as is the necromancer/doctor's obsession with expanding boundaries of knowledge, regardless of ethical considerations, so I think it's not completely tenuous. I'd recommend watching the film to see more, but I really can't, it's awful! Still, it's been parodied before since it's (for some reason) a cult classic, which is why it seems likely to me. -- Haravikk 22:35, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

(←) In Dragon Age II, a man stitches together parts of women in order to recreate his dead wife, having spent years searching for and perfecting his idea, and all parts of the body had to be perfect. In DAII, unlike Bride of Re-Animator but like Blood on the Ice, the man kills people for the parts he needs. I don't know if this part is like BoRA, but there is also a huge investigation going on regarding the killings.

All these things have similar stories, but I'm still not convinced it's particularly referencing anything... --Velyanthe 23:24, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

Ferris Bueller's Day Off

In the Dampened Spirits quest, a dialogue option with Sabjorn is "You'd better, or I yell 'skeever.' (Intimidate)". In the movie, Ferris threatens a restaurant host with "You touch me I yell rat." It's minor for sure, but I could see it being a reference, especially since both are used to threaten restaurant owners, and that there are several other dialogue options throughout Skyrim that quote movies (such as Shawshank Redemption). 184.98.70.202 06:02, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

If they'd used the exact same wording except for the word "skeever", I might be convinced, but given that it's not, I don't think it's close enough that we can say "clearly, it's a reference". – Robin Hood↝talk 07:27, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Yeah...no.ThuumofReason 11:51, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Wulfgar and Beowulf

This subject has been brought up before now, but the reference of the character's name "Wulfgar", a Graybeard in High Hrothgar, may be a reference to the epic poem Beowulf and not to the barbarian Wulfgar of the Icewind Dale Trilogy by R.A. Salvatore as many have suspected. The character named Wulfgar in Beowulf is the herald of Hroogar (also coincidentally similar to Hrothgar) and he is said to be renowned for his wisdom. Wisdom, of course, a trait that a Graybeard would be in no short supply of.

Thoughts on this? — Unsigned comment by CronkJuice (talk • contribs) on 9 March 2012

Had to look up Hrothgar when I first started playing because I thought it was the place in Beowulf so I could see it. 71.178.211.168 04:47, 21 March 2012 (UTC)JJadziaDax

Helping people home branch names

In the CK, if you go to an actor, say, Belethor. Edit him and select dialogue, there is a branch called "CR08VictimYayIAmHomeNaoKThxBai". The name is text talk and a good attempt to be funny. Lol @ Bethesda.

Forbidden Planet

This classic Science Fiction move from 1956 has a plotline that revolves around a magnificent civilization of technological geniuses (the Krell) who disappeared suddenly and mysteriously thousands of years before, leaving behind only their structures (all underground) and machinery. Sound like anyone we know?

These ruins are being studied by a brilliant scholar (Dr. Edward Morbius) who lives a hermit like existence, albeit he lives with a robot and a beautiful daughter. When describing the Krell he uses almost the exact same words Septimus Signus uses to describe the Dwemer. Specifically Morbius says “…a genius level human only registers as an idiot child on the Krell level.” Septimus says, “Septimus is clever among men, but he is but an idiot child compared to the dullest of the Dwemer.” — Unsigned comment by Redvideo (talk • contribs) at 21:47 on March 11, 2012

The Matrix

Just before the character Switch is killed she says "Not like this, not like this" , a line which I have heard from a few dying NPC's. This may also be a reference to The Matrix on-line game. Redvideo 01:47, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Already talked about, probably not an Egg. --Velyanthe 01:58, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Clan of the Cave Bear

Noticed the character Aela the Huntress is similar in name to the main protagonist Ayla from the book "Clan of the Cave Bear". In the book, Ayla was a Cro-Magnon orphan raised by a group of Neanderthals. She went against the social conventions of her adoptive people by learning to hunt and make hunting tools and weapons (thus a huntress). Not sure if it is a direct reference, but certainly suggestive. Hypnotist 22:52, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Are there any other similarities? Just a name and a somewhat similar character type aren't enough to go on. ThuumofReason 13:57, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Pirates of the Carribian

The east Empire company may be a refrense to the East India Trading company from the pirates of the caribian series. You also have to fight some pirates on this mission, which was a major plot with in the movies.— Unsigned comment by 216.56.24.82 (talk) at 19:16 on 15 March 2012 (UTC)

I am sure that they was in Morrowind aswell which would make that older than the Pirates of the Caribbean films? — Kimi the Elf ^{(talk | contribs)} 19:23, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

The Pirates of the Caribbean movies used the name of a real trading company.

Morrowind came out a year before PotC. And yes, they were in MW, with a large building (warehouse?) in Ebonheart. --Velyanthe 19:45, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

The archives, check them. ThuumofReason 21:57, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

ThuumofReason: I, and likely most others, would be take your comments more seriously if they weren't so condescending. All one has to do is look up and down the talk page to come away with a very low opinion of your character, temperament and disposition. Quoting from YOUR talk page:

== Goals ==

...

• Learn to chill the **** out

== Distinctions I Like to Make ==

• Constructive Criticism is preferable to lecturing: Advise, don't chastise. Especially if you're in no position to do the latter.
• Authority commands compliance, not respect: Just because people have to follow your rules doesn't mean they have to like you as a person. Respect is something that must be earned through courtesy and fairness, not personal authority.

My thoughts:

• put more effort into that last goal.
• As you are neither an Admin or Mod, and this is a WIKI, you do not have the authority to command either compliance or respect.
• Thus you are in no position to chastise anyone about their edits, contributions, comments or ideas.

Would it really be that difficult to channel a comment like "The archives, check them." into something like "You could check the archives for related information."? If you can't be helpful and/or constructive, at least refrain from pissing all over everyone else. Especially on a discussion page. Very truly yours, Hypnotist 19:11, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Please read the notice at the top of the page. Then read the archives. Maybe you'll understand my comment a little more. While you're there, you might also try finding another user who had a similar complaint to yours, and the community response. ThuumofReason 19:18, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

(←) I think this is a pretty good place to draw the line on this discussion. Our etiquette policy requires that all editors be treated with respect, regardless of any so-called status or seniority. In any case, this is a discussion page for possible easter eggs, not for personal disputes, and I'd appreciate it if you both could please move on with something more productive.

On that note, I tend to agree that while the EEC may have a similar name to the East India Company, it's very unlikely it was meant to be a reference to the Pirates films, if indeed it was meant to be a reference at all. If anything, the name could have been based off the historical East India Company, but...I couldn't say for sure. –Eshe^talk 19:48, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

I agree. I believe personally it is based on the historical E.I.C due to similarities with trading and conquests. It cannot be based on the pirates films at all due to its presence in Morrowind. Manic 19:57, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Hey, I'm with you. All I said was to check the archives, I never said anything about status or seniority. ThuumofReason 20:01, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

S.O.S reference

The shield of solitude could be a refrence to S.O.S. (if you don't know what an S.O.S is, it's an urgent appeal for help.) The abbreviation of the shield of solitude is SOS. The shield itself grants a 15% magic resistance, and you can block 20% more damage with the shield, which could really come in handy for lower level characters when battling enemies that do a lot of damage, or battling powerful mages.

That's just a coincidence. ThuumofReason 19:01, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Sheogoraths Quest

In the sheogorath quest it's Pelagius' anger and confidence, not paranoia. — Unsigned comment by 58.170.176.131 (talk) at 22:32 on March 17, 2012

Yes, you are right... though Paranoia is still a part of his dreams. I don't know if that would affect it being an Egg or not, though. --Velyanthe 02:38, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Fallout 3 Easter Egg

Sometimes Guards will say "Let me guess... Someone stole your sweetroll." This could be a reference to Fallout 3 in which the player is bullied by Butch to give him their sweetroll during their birthday party.

It's been mentioned here before, and a few other times. We actually have a notice on top of this page indicating that this reference and a few other popular ones have been mentioned with links to them. Oh, and its a reference to The Elder Scrolls: Arena. Thank you for contributing, but may you read the archives before posting a suggestion to make sure it hasn't been covered? We get a lot of repeat suggestions, and some editors get frustrated with the repeat posts. ES^{Question?•Email•Contribs} 19:36, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Guyforks Reference

One of the Bard's college quests result in a festival where an Olaf model (or whoever) is burnt on a bonfire. In Britain there is a festival on November 5 where a bonfire is lit in representation of Guy Forks' execution, due to terrorism. Could this be a reference? --Manic 16:48, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

I kind of doubt it. Can you give any more evidence to suggest a connection? ThuumofReason 18:49, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

I believe it's Guy Fawkes day but Forks does fit in better with TES :) Fawkes wasn't a King but he was, like Olaf, a traitor and was also sentenced to death and is also burned in effigy *shrug* Guy Fawkes 71.178.211.168 04:54, 21 March 2012 (UTC) JJadziaDax

That still seems like kind of a shaky connection to make. I'd have to say it's coincidental. ThuumofReason 14:13, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

There are a few similaritys here. There are two versions of Guy Fawkes. one where he is the hero and the other a villan. An effigy of him is burnt on 5th november and in 1685 and 1859 some laws were passed attempting to lessen the significance of the event, though not an outright ban. Both stories involve item(s) of significant firepower being stored beneath a palace, and both events are described as a celebration of the stopping of traitors. And one the first option in fixing up the story is that olaf found the dragon sleeping, well Guy was found sleeping by the guards investigating the cellars. The Silencer 20:57, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

I think the similarities are really close. As soon as I did this quest, I thought, wow this festival is just like bonfire night. --Manic 12:21, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Lord of the Rings reference

In Whiterun, there is the gildergreen tree, with almost identical appearance to the White tree of Gondor. The white tree of Gondor was later revived by Aragorn and Gandalf. There is a quest to revive the tree in Skyrim. There may also be a reference in the name, as there word white is used to describe both the city- Whiterun, and the tree- the white tree of Gondor — Unsigned comment by 210.49.195.127 (talk) at 07:45 on 21 March 2012

This has been discussed and rejected at least once before, if not more. Please search the archives. (I found one in Archive 5, at a quick search.) – Robin Hood↝talk 09:59, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Silent City

In Blackreach, there is a section called "Silent City Catacombs". This may be a reference to Cassandra Clare's two series The Mortal Instruments and Infernal Devices.

In the series, the "Silent City" is a desolate, silent place that many fear to enter that holds many graves of the fallen of their race. It is inhabited by pretty much zealots who have gone blind with their own power. This seems to draw connections to Falmer, in a way, as the Falmer themselves are blind.

I am going to doubt such a connection. "Silent City" is a rather ambiguous name, and a blind race in a silent city doesn't seem to make a very strong connection. The Falmer were also invented before those books were published, I believe, with mentions in Morrowind. --Velyanthe 01:25, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Seconded. ThuumofReason 17:55, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Art Of War Reference?

I found a book call "the art of war magic" ingame, could it be a "Sun Tzu's art of war" reference? i dont know if they're randomly spawning, but i found mine in the white hall in dawnstar. — Unsigned comment by Icallshots (talk • contribs) at 17:41 on March 23, 2012

Already noted. It showed up in Morrowind first, so it's only on the Morrowind Egg page. --Velyanthe 21:49, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

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