Online talk:Costumes

Split

This page is starting to get far too massive. Perhaps an alphabetical split is in order? —Legoless (talk) 15:00, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

I agree that it should be split, I've recently done the alphabetical split for the Mounts and Pets pages and I can work on this page as well if I get the go ahead.--Talyyn (talk) 05:51, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

having this list is pointless, it's too hard to update

the list is made in such a way that you have to fix new columns when adding new costumes. Why are new columns are put in such arbitrary positions? it is uneven. It is also outdated, I think it misses a few costumes like the peryite skeevemaster one. —ErfXploded (talk) 19:52, 26 January 2020 (GMT)

The costumes themselves are found on other pages, navigated to via the alphabetized bar near the top of the page. Online:Costumes is an Overview page. Because the Noble Dress is on that page, when you click on the Noble Dress's link, you'll be taken directly to its section. When we had every costume available listed here (and not on alphabetized pages), it was impossible to edit. It lagged for minutes at a time, and adding anything was a horrible experience. This list exists as a navigation page, similar to Online:Pets and Online:Mounts. When we learn about a new costume, we add it to the navigation table on this page, then we put the costume's information/images on the corresponding page. If you see that a documented costume is missing from this page, please add it to the navigation table by copy-pasting the template, and placing the costume's name in alphabetical order among the list. Similarly, if you find a costume that isn't on our alphabetized pages, please add an entry there.

It's not the cleanest or funnest way to document things, I will admit. But it is the best way to help users navigate to the costumes they're looking for, and it saves this page from experiencing a ton of lag. Seriously, merely navigating or loading into this page was a chore before we moved the contents to alphabetized pages.

The columns were uneven because the lists had an uneven amount of entries in them. I believe The column headers are there because this was an (efficient) way to make a numbered table with columns behave properly. We'd have to talk to the person that conceived the table in the first place to figure that out, but for now, it works.

If you add an entry to one column, move over to the next column's header and increase the digit value in the header by one. For example, if you added a costume to column 1, move down to column 2's header, which looks like this: #<li value=47>[[Online:Costumes D#Dark Shaman|Dark Shaman]]</li> In #<li value=47>, change 47 to 48. Because column 1 now has 47 entries in it, you'll want column 2's first entry to be numbered as entry 48. This solves the wonky numbering issue. You may want to move the first entry in any given column to the bottom of the previous column and repeat as needed to solve the issue of the columns looking uneven. For example, if we add an entry to column 2, column 1 is going to be shorter than column 2, so you may want to place the entry at the bottom of column 2 at the top of column 3. But now column 3 is taller than the other columns, so we'd want to move the entry at the bottom of column 3 to the top of column 4. This maintains the alphabetical structure of the table while preserving the integrity of our numbering system. Currently, column 4 is the shortest, which makes sense given that it's one costume short compared to the other 3. As costumes are added, this will be remedied. I hope that explanation made sense, if not, it'll make more sense if you can follow what I wrote and see how the table works for yourself. —MolagBallet (talk) 05:34, 27 January 2020 (GMT)

I tried to simplifying adding new entries by using css to let the browser make the decision where to split, and just having a plain list without extras to edit. Firefox does the balancing a bit different than I did it by hand, but otherwise it looks good to me. If there are no problems cropping up, I intend to apply that to the hats too. --Alfwyn (talk) 16:18, 30 April 2020 (GMT)

Indeed, hard to update huge but useful list

what seems to be missing (Dec,27,2022) are
- Timbercrow Wanderer - 50 dailes in IC. it has a dedicated page on UESP
- Courtly Traveling Attire - completing High Isle storyline
— Unsigned comment by Dino Zavr (talk • contribs) at 07:07 on 27 December 2022 (UTC)

Individual Costume Page Formatting

I wanted to talk about formatting for costume pages because I haven't gotten around to fixing most of them since the bot created pages for all the individual costumes.

I've done a mockup of what the template for future costume pages should look like on Template:Online Collectible Summary/Costume.

Online:New Moons Cross-Sash Robe is an excellent translation from simple alphabetical list entry to full-fledged page: the dye section is separated from the bio by a newleft, and every image that's not used in the infobox is in the gallery. A lot of pages that were created by the bot have the images as thumbnails on the right side of the page, but I'd like to dissuade that in favor of keeping costume pages consistent with skins, our other gender-documenting Appearance Collectibles pages.

Sometimes I struggle to say things in a way that makes sense to normal people outside the documentation in my head, so I'll rephrase that: If you use the female version of a costume in the Collectibles template's image field, put the male version in the gallery instead of leaving it as a thumbnail below the infobox, and vice versa. -MolagBallet (talk) 00:29, 8 May 2023 (UTC)