Oblivion talk:Fingers of the Mountain

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I removed this (but kept it here in case anyone disagrees):

• The Finger of the Mountain is apparently designed to be useless (it requires thousands of magicka points to cast just once, which is silly). It's up to you if you still want to go through with the second part of the quest.

The above only applies if you do the quest with a high level character. Furthermore, magicka cost is dependent on skill level. --Goit 05:43, 15 April 2006 (EDT)

I'm not even sure if they even intended it to be useful. For one thing, the spell's cost is set to double the normal auto-calculate rate. --Cloud Tiamat

Is there a way to make a "Fingers of the mountain" search show this page at the top?

It does show as Chorrol Recommendation several entries down the results list. I'm a beginner at wiki editing so I wouldn't know how to do do this. — Unsigned comment by Demono (talk • contribs) at 14:35 on 30 April 2006‎

Fingers!

Here, I collected the data for the different levels for the spell. I dont know how to make a table, so can someone else please? This is original research done by me. All magicka costs are based on a level 100 Desruction aility.

1-4 Shock damage 6 pts in 5 feet, 2 cost

5-9 Shock damage 20 pts in 5 feet, 15 cost

10-14 Shock damage 40 pts in 5 feet, 42 cost

15-19 Shock damage 90 pts in 5 feet, 143 cost

20-25 Shock damage 140 pts in 5 feet, 277 cost

26+ Shock damage 200 pts in 10 feet, 710 cost

*Note that I basically had to turn on God Mode in order to survive level 20 and up. The last three stages are pretty impossible to get I guess, unless you have shock resitance. My Breton with mundane ring survived, but my horse was fried. ALl those people that say fingers of the mountain need 7kish magicka to cast are cheaters, becuase only way you get THAT version is by using console. Although spells are all called the same, the player gets his own Fingers of the Mountain, while the magical stone has more powerful versions with the same name. The version that does 200 damage in 100 feet or some nonsense is only used by the stone, which killed my horse. Actually, by breton with Mage sign wears 5 pieces of armor with 2 rings and an amulet that I enchanted with Sigil Stones that fortify magicka. He can BARELY cast fingers, but proves he is quite a powerful guy. A high elf with atronach can probably just cast a spell to fortify magica, use the Mages doomsonte ability, and then only needs a few enchanted pieces of armor to cast fingers. Its not an impossible spell like everyone says, especially since those uber powerful versions are only used by the stone. However, a high elf probably wouldnt survive the strike from the stone to get the power version of the spell. Unless they cast a resist magicka 100% spell for just a second or two. — Unsigned comment by ChristensenCT (talk • contribs) at 17:51 on 22 May 2006‎

Ego

I too agree it's pretty useless, although not impossible to cast. I believe it's meant as a milestone for mage's to boost their ego. I think it was intended for something to boast about, like "My mage can cast fingers of the mountain!". Like me, I'll say it right now, MY MAGE CAN CAST FINGERS OF THE MOUNTAIN! ( The most powerful version of course ). Just like in morrowind people would boast if they could defeat Vivec at level one, being able to cast this spell is just meant to make you look cool.--ChristensenCT 13:56, 22 May 2006 (EDT)

Unable to finish this quest

Hey guys, i guess i didn't really follow the walkthrough. I got the fingers of the mountain book from cloud top, then returned it to Teekeus. He took it away to his chest and i told Earana that i gave it to Teekeus. So i took the book back from Teekeeus's chest and gave it to Earana, waited for a day, got my "Earana's notes" and tried to get the fingers of the mountain book back from her room, but that didn't work. Then i went ahead and pickpocketed the book off her but Teekeus won't accept it (well...he doesn't even notice it in the dialog). Does this mean i have to complete the second part of the quest first? And truly all i want is my recommendation.— Unsigned comment by 76.17.35.80 (talk)

You already have the recommendation. You got it when you first gave the book to Teekeeus. The second part of the quest is optional. --Nephele 16:50, 23 November 2006 (EST)

I have the same problem, and I still have "Join the Mages Guild" quest marker pointing to Teekeeus. Is there a way to finish this quest? I've beaten it on another character. --Quik 19:02, 4 July 2007 (EDT)

Ignore the quest marker because it's wrong. As long as you have given the book to Teekeeus, you've completed the requirements as far as "Join the Mages Guild" is concerned. Other players have reported the same problem, but have found that if they just ignored the quest marker and completed the other recommendation quests they were then granted access to the Arcane University. --Nephele^Talk 01:54, 23 August 2007 (EDT)

ive completed all of the reccomendations but still can access the arcane university. Help!!!!!!!!!

1.11.09. btw its for xbox 360.thnx — Unsigned comment by 90.212.8.195 (talk) at 16:55 on 2 November 2009‎

i have done all recomendations i turned the book into the dude who recomends you and he didnt say anything sbout my recomendation he just said he was going to hide the book or something then i talked to him again and he said it was hidden till the council decided what to do with it and the topic of my recomendation was removed so i went to the arch mage and he said i havent done all recomendations. EDIT: apparently my game decided i didnt need bravil recomendation because it was not in the quest log only after i was dneied entry to arcane university did it show up as a quest Lindenbrock 07:42, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

What gives you fame?

The |Fame=Fame page indicates you can earn up to 2 fame points for this quest -- I haven't done it, so what is the breakdown of fame points? --CharmSpell 22:13, 22 June 2007 (EDT)

I can only find one instance of the "modpcfame" command relating to this quest - you get it when you give the book to Teekeeus, whether you gave it to Earana first or not. The second part of the quest where you get the spell does not seem to give you any fame. It's possible that whoever said there were 2 fame points was mistaken? --TheRealLurlock ^Talk 23:23, 22 June 2007 (EDT)

Wait a minute - I found it, hidden in dialogue instead of the quest scripts - If you give the book to Earana first, I think you get an extra Fame point. Sneaky where they hide these things... --TheRealLurlock ^Talk 23:29, 22 June 2007 (EDT)

If you give the book to Earana you get 1 fame point, but your wiki doesn't mention that you can get another fame point by stealing the book and giving it to Teekeeus, but only at the condition you don't tell Teekeeus you gave it to Earana. You won't get a second fame point if you admit you gave the book to Earana. This should be mentioned in this quest guide because it's an important detail that can make you loose a fame point permanently. Also I'm trying to explore if there's a way to get 3 points right now. — Unsigned comment by 188.126.90.135 (talk) on 9 October 2010

It's already stated in the article, and to save you some time, there isn't a way to get 3 points for this quest. -- Jplatinum16 19:48, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Sorry but no it's not mentioned, I did a search on the key word "fame" and it appears nowhere. Read again my post you probably didn't understand it, what I'm saying is you can get 1+1 pts of fame but only if you don't tell Teekeeus you gave the book to Earana first. The guides says to talk to Teekeeus (which is stupid since that makes you loose 1 fame pt permanently) and then the guide proceed in stating you don't get any fame for giving it back to Teekeeus. — Unsigned comment by 188.126.90.135 (talk) on 10 October 2010

Yes it is mentioned, and rather than insulting other users you should spend more time reading before posting. Read this section again, properly. rpeh •T•C•E• 09:47, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

I have read that part and no, it's not mentioned. Quoting article: "Hand the book to Teekeeus, who agrees to overlook your transgression and send the Chorrol Mages Guild recommendation to the Arcane University (no additional Fame point at this stage)." Why don't you just quote the part mentioning it so I can verify your claim. And I'm not insulting anyone, stop overreacting like a child. — Unsigned comment by 188.126.81.5 (talk) at 18:28 on 16 October 2010‎

No corpse on Cloud Top.

Someone posted that sometimes the corpse wouldn't appear on Cloud Top. I believe that this is a conflict with another quest and additional research should be performed. I have done the quest 10 times (seperate characters) and the body has been there each time. — Unsigned comment by Ocylith (talk • contribs) at 18:22 on 15 April 2008‎

This is likely either an isolated incident, or a rare glitch. Either way, just doing the quest 10 times and not encountering this problem does not mean that it doesn't exist. --HMSVictory^Talk 14:25, 15 April 2008 (EDT)

Well I understand that, however, it's a start. I'm not sure which version of the game the person was playing so it may be related to that. If someone would be interested in helping me with this, that'd be great. Ocylith 21:53, 15 April 2008 (EDT)

The corpse is actually a container and not even a dead Creature/NPC. As containers don't disappear like bodies do, it is very unlikely this bug is true. --Timenn < talk > 09:29, 16 April 2008 (EDT)

Since that actually makes a lot of sense, and I think you may be correct, I guess this "problem" has been figured out. Ocylith 10:21, 16 April 2008 (EDT)

(←) i just had this very problem, playing on game version 1.2.0416, did the theif's guild quest - picked up the unfriendly competetion quest, go fishing and the one with the shadowbanish wine - then delivered the amulet, went to chorrel, - got the killing fields quest and the separated at birth - then left chorrol and went west along the road all the way to the end of it, then went south until i got to the infested mine, there was what seemed to be an empty cell right next to it, only some rocks etc floating in the air. - from there i went to the first camp where you get the first item for the orrery quest. - then headed for kvatch, picked up the sunken one quest on the way, (havent finished the orrery or the sunken one quest). got to kvatch closed the gate etc. tp with martin to the priory, finished the killing fields. - tp'ed to cloudruler. then tp'ed to chorrol, picked up the reward sword form the killing fields quest. picked up the quest shadow over hackdirt. can't remember if i joined the fighters and mages guild the first time i was in town or waited until i got back there again. went to cloud top and no corpse there.

the corpse just isnt there, turned of all the mods, still the same. started a new game, this time went straight there and now it is back. 77.212.211.26 13:35, 4 May 2008 (EDT)

can we add a additem option for those who cant find the corpse? I myself cant find it and cant find the additem code. — Unsigned comment by 175.36.208.50 (talk) at 22:39 on 18 February 2019

The codes for the corpse and the book are now on the page in the bugs section. Silence is Golden^{Break the Silence} 19:51, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

this is wrong!

i had the problem where i couldnt finish the fingers in the mountain quest too. i looked back at my completed quests menu and it was there. however it said i still had to talk to earana!! my quest pointer also pointed to the guy in the mage guild.

Solution: go to the gray mare and talk to earana. either agree or disagree to continue with fingers of the mountain, part 2. — Unsigned comment by 72.230.166.255 (talk) at 21:20 on 25 April 2008‎

SOLUTION TO ABOVE PROBLEM AND PROBLEM OF THE ANNOYING QUESTPOINTER.

Your quest pointer will still point to the mages guild guy, accept part 2, after talking to her the first time, disagree to help her and the quest marker will go away, thus ending the quest chain. -ArkAngel_X — Unsigned comment by 75.26.25.158 (talk) at 05:51 on 16 October 2009‎

Earana wont talk to me

All she says is "youre a bold little thing arent you" and the dialouge ends. What do i do? — Unsigned comment by 90.220.141.50 (talk) on 4 February 2009

Your health is too low. She comes out with that line if your health is <150. Try healing yourself or perhaps use a Fortify Health spell. –Rpeh^{•T•C•E•} 13:49, 4 February 2009 (EST)

Just had same problem 115 health but then I realized I hadn't talked to teekus about earana topic yet, did that and was fine— Unsigned comment by 101.161.165.251 (talk) at 12:44 on 7 Januari 2012

Double Win

I managed to give the book to both Earana and Teekius. This is what I did: I retrieved the book from Cloud Top and went to see Earana while she was sleeping. I stood outside her closed door and waited for her to wake up and come out. As soon as the door opened, I spoke with her (as she stood in the doorway). I handed over the book and she made a move to go back in. Just as the door started to close, I ran forward and managed to get inside with her. Her character just stood there, facing the door, so I was able to crouch behind her unnoticed and steal the book from the chest on the ground. I thought Earana would be furious with me, but when I spoke with her, she acted as though she still had the book. I then high-tailed it to Teekius and gave him the book. When I went back to see Earana 24 hours later, she gave me her notes and the quest continued. BlueCat 12:46, 25 April 2009 (EDT)-BlueCat^Talk

Author Edit: I just saw this is already listed as a bug. BlueCat 12:51, 25 April 2009 (EDT)

You can also give the book to Teekius then later talk to Earana then go back to the mages guild steal the book from Teekius stuff...

then go back to Earana and 24 hours later she will give you the quest — Unsigned comment by 93.173.11.61 (talk) at 10:17 on 6 November 2010‎

Avoiding the lightning

User 78.105.112.9 recently added the following: If you do not have nor do not want to invest in some spell resistance or protection; you can simply position yourself next to one of the outer pillars and then fire the shock spell. Assuming it is not a touch you will have time to strafe behind the pillar you are standing next to, forcing the centre pillar's counter-attack to hit the pillar instead of you.

I tried this, but no matter where I stood or which pillar I stood behind, I always got struck by the lightning. Can anybody else confirm that it is actually avoidable? --Gaebrial 07:04, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

STEPS TO KEEPING THE BOOK *AND* REMOVING THE STOLEN FLAG (moved from article)

The following was added to the main article by 68.6.188.57 on October 4, 2009.

• • 1. Get the book.
  • 2. Give the book to Teekeeus- Give it to him while he is sleeping so that he will put it straight into his chest.
  • 3. Take the book from the chest. At this point the "Join the mage's guild" quest is still marked in Chorral.
  • 4. Give the book to Earana. She will tell you to wait the "few" days so she can translate it.
  • 5. Wait 24 hours. Wait 24 hours again.
  • 6. If Earana is not at the Grey Mare, she is by the mages guild and you have to pick pocket the book from her. Also, you need to talk to her so she will give you the "shock the pillar" insructions.
  • 7. (At this point I had to go to skingrad to buy a shock spell, and return to cloud top.)Shock the pillar and get the 'finger of the mountain' spell.
  • 8. Now, you can freely drop the book as it is no longer a quest item, but it is still flagged as "stolen." Go to the burned body and place the book in it's inventory, and leave the inventory screen.
  • 9. Re-open the burned body's inventory and there the book will be, free of any stolen flags, as it was when you first got it. The flag does not return. We all win!

NOTES

I did this the first time I played. If you follow the steps exactly I know that it works because I had to do it all over again to make this tutorial. I couldn't remember exactly how I did it, so I made a bunch of mistakes and kept having to reload.

The "join the mages guild" quest will no longer be flagged for Chorral. Also, Teekeus never mentions the book again, and you get into the mages guild just fine.

The "cloning" trick with scrolls works on it now, and the book "weighs" 2 and is still worth zero in coins. I now own 20 "Finger of the mountain" books.

Other Notes- I tried hitting my horse with the lightning from the pillar. Nothing happens, he doesn't get quicker or anything like the way shrines cause.

This looks pretty conclusive to me. If there are no objections, I'll remove the tag tomorrow (for the sake of consensus). The single note should suffice for those that wish to repeat the process. Dlarsh^{(Talk,Contribs,E-mail)} 00:51, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

I accidentally patrolled this edit, intending to undo it, before reading what was going on here. For now, I've left it in and touched up the instructions somewhat. If it fails verification or for whatever other reason, it shouldn't be on the page, you can always remove it. If you can't verify it, just re-add the VN tag and I'll try to look into it myself tomorrow. —Robin Hood (Talk • E-mail • Contribs) 10:03, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

when i was doing the fingers of the mountain i gave it to earana and then took it from her and gave it to teekeess and then took the quest away — Unsigned comment by 68.10.81.96 (talk) at 23:12 on 14 November 2009‎

Is this quest Required for the spell.

Has anyone tried to get the spell prior to receiving this quest? — Unsigned comment by 76.126.127.251 (talk) on 3 March 2010

Yes you can try to get the spell before Earana gives you the instructions but it doesn't work even if you have a welkynd stone — Unsigned comment by 24.89.226.243 (talk) on 12 March 2010

i cant get the recommendation

I finished the quest (part 1), and Teekeus told me that i had my recommendation. For some reason, the quest never finished for me, and that i never got my recommendation. I am in the middle of part 2, and I dont know if finishing part 2 gets me my recommendation. — Unsigned comment by 76.103.3.103 (talk) at 01:19 on 26 June 2010‎

no it doesent--(Theblack7 22:09, 3 August 2010 (UTC))

dont give book

what if i give the book to teekus and then refuse to give it to earana will i still be able to get the spell. — Unsigned comment by Theblack7 (talk • contribs) on 3 August 2010

Nope. The spell is Earana's reward to you for giving her the book so it's the only way to obtain it. rpeh •T•C•E• 07:41, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

THE STONE IS INACTIVE

I took the book from Cloud Top, gave it to Teekeeus by talking to him in his room when he was sleeping, took it from the chest next to his bed, gave it to Earana, waited a day, took the book back, talked to her and got the notes, went to Cloud Top, read the notes, and I can't get the option to use the stone at the ruins. I don't understand this. — Unsigned comment by 69.237.68.188 (talk) at 04:32 on 5 September 2010‎

You must have a Welkynd Stone with you and cast a shock spell at the statue. --Arch-Mage Matt ^{Did I Do That?} 04:35, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Splitting

The 'Part II' quest is a seperate quest (obviously), and because it has no effect whatsoever on the chorrol recommendation, i suggest splitting the 2 quest in seperate articles. Thoughts? Razor 12:34, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

I know what you mean, but I'd be inclined to keep them together because they're so closely related and have the same name (virtually). If people want to split them, though, I wouldn't object. There'd be a fair amount of places where the change would need to be made. rpeh •T•C•E• 12:58, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Conflict

"The book can be stolen from Earana as soon as you hand it to her, and then presented to Teekeeus. After 24 hours, Earana will complete her research on the book even though she no longer has it."

"If given to Earana you will be asked to steal it back by Teekeeus (wait until Earana gives you her notes first}."

Shouldnt the last part of the second statement be removed because the bug makes it unnecessary to wait for the notes?--Catmaniac66 14:30, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Earana is GONE!

So I am doing the Mages Guild Quest and during the Chorrol Recomendation I cannot find Earana. I made the Fingers of the Mountain my main quest and it is telling me that Earana is located in the West Archers Tower. As soon as I go in there the arrow turns green right infront of the "Chorrol Door". I dont know what is going on... — Unsigned comment by 76.117.114.131 (talk) at 15:13 on 13 February 2011‎

She may be on a different level of the interior, the green arrow just means she is in the same cell. Try resting for 24 hours outside of chorrol,she might reset.--Catmaniac66 15:16, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Sorry fellow TES IV fans... I have not been playing TES IV as of late because of finals and work... *Sad Face* Now that I found some free time I came back to the game. I tried resting 24 hrs outside of Chorrol and nothing... I did leave out some potentially important information earlier. I was bored in the game and started a fight in Chorrol with the Guards and the surrounding people came to my help. At one point Earana ran away (I presume into the West Archers Tower?) Ever since the red arrow has been stuck there... CAN ANYONE HELP ME!? — Unsigned comment by 76.117.114.131 (talk) at 02:48 on 11 March 2011‎

Moved a note

• Earana acts annoyed towards characters and will not talk to them until they have begun this quest.

I don't see the notability to this as she offers no services and is only involved with this quest. --AKB ^Talk 05:37, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Easy Way To Delete Bug #1

Just do the second part of the quest "Fingers of the Mountain Part 2" and the green arrow won't point at Teneekus any more. — Unsigned comment by 74.82.64.35 (talk) at 00:46 on March 8, 2011

Yep, I checked it. Teekeeus is marked until Part II advances farther. I cleaned up the bug. --DKong27 ^{Talk Cont} 23:15, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

fingers of the mountain spell

what does the spell even do?— Unsigned comment by 108.37.13.225 (talk) at 21:07 on May 29 2011

It's a Shock spell. The power is level-dependant.--Kalis Agea^{Yes? Contrib E-mail} 21:11, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Alternative: No Theft Required

After a bit of testing, I have been able to reliably complete the Mages Guild Recommendation for Chorrol, and recieve the Fingers of the Mountain spell, without any criminal record increase. Once independently verified, I believe this procedure should be added to the article:

1. Start the Chorrol recommendation questline.
2. Obtain the Fingers of the Mountain book.
3. Duplicate self with the Skull of Corruption.
4. Give original book to Teekeeus.
5. Kill Clone and take second book (and other useful loot).
6. Talk to Earana.
7. Wait for quest to update.
8. Give duplicated book to Earana.
9. Continue second quest.

The reason steps 4 and 5 must be in this awkward order (within the Skull of Corruption's 30 second timeframe) is due to the fact that two identical books in the player's inventory will cause both Teekeeus and Earana to overlook the item, acting as though the player has neither. This process allows full fame to be recieved, along with the spell, the recommendation, and no criminal record. No stealing, assault or murder was required whatsoever. This was carried out on the Xbox 360 version. - Neural Tempest 01:43, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

well, doesnt killing your clone get you in trouble anyway? (Eddie the head 02:30, 17 July 2011 (UTC))

I figured resourceful players would figure out ways around this, as there are a few, such as having someone else kill the clone, or using poisons/100% Chameleon/Enchanted weapons. Personally, I used 4 custom chameleon potions, in combination with a few custom paralyze/damage health poisons. There are ways of aquiring your clone's inventory mentioned elsewere, so I thought it was better not to list them all. Interestingly enough, 100% chameleon and poisoned (or enchanted) weapons combo can actually allow a player to kill any character without a criminal record, or removal from a guild. - Neural Tempest 03:23, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

If you accidently find the book before you accept the quest.

Okay, so you found the book on the corpse before you even accepted the quest, but Teekeeus & Earana won't accept it & just ask you to go find it. What do you do now?

• Go back to Hilltop.
• ~setquestobject 0000510D, 0
• Put the book back on the corpse.
• ~setquestobject 0000510D, 1
• Take the book back from the corpse. — Unsigned comment by 50.135.167.21 (talk) at 07:47 on 20 September 2012‎

Shock spell

Although the article lists where to find a Welkyd stone to use in FotM II, it doesn’t say where to get your initial shock spell needed to cast at the pillar. Druja in Skingrad sells a cheap low level targeted spell. — Unsigned comment by Belgarim (talk • contribs) at 18:08 on 27 March 2019

The whole section appeared cobbled together, I've totally rewritten it and incorporated where to get a spell. Silence is Golden^{Break the Silence} 19:46, 27 March 2019 (UTC)