Lore talk:Uriel IV

Dragonborn

In Oblivion, Jauffre states that the Dragonfires, after Uriel VII's assassination, will be dark for the first time in centuries. Therefore, 199 years before Oblivion, he attests the Dragonfires were lit. This year is 234, in the middle of Uriel IV's reign. Thus, he must've been Dragonborn to have lit the Dragonfires. Mindtrait0r (talk) 19:18, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

Jauffre only refers to "centuries", he doesn't refer to how many centuries nor how many years to be exact either. For all we know he could be referring to before Tiber Septim's reign, over four centuries ago. --Rezalon (talk) 19:41, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

Hence why I took the minimum possible year count for the sentence to still make sense, with two hundred years being "centuries" in the barest sense of the word. Not sure why I said 199 in my original post, but 200 works in the same way. While he could mean Tiber's time, we can't confirm that. Mindtrait0r (talk) 19:57, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

Right, sorry, I got the logic backwards. In this case, assuming "centuries" did mean only two, even if you give or take a few years then that could mean the Dragonfires could have been unlit during any, or all of the, period of Uriel IV's reign. --Rezalon (talk) 20:37, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

He says that they'd be unlit for the first time in centuries, meaning they haven't been unlit in at least 200 years, therefore they must've been lit from at least 3E 233 to the end of his reign. Because the Dragonfires are said to be kept lit by the emperors when they take the throne, if Uriel IV wasn't Dragonborn, they wouldn't be lit. Mindtrait0r (talk) 20:43, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

I'm really bad at maths as it turns out. --Rezalon (talk) 21:06, 30 October 2024 (UTC)