Lore talk:Aryon

The Pride of Tel Vos

The status of Aryon himself is also unknown, but a ship from Tel Vos, The Pride Of Tel Vos, tells a tale of some Telvanni fleeing the invading force of the Argonians past the cataclysm of the Red Year and into Skyrim giving a bad outlook for the fate of Aryon's tower of Tel Vos.

Honestly? I don't think the ship should be mentioned at all. All we know is a ship with that name existed. We have zero additional information about it, everything else is speculation and original research. Plus, this is a page about Aryon, not about Tel Vos. I don't really think it is needed to be mentioned. It adds nothing to the actual topic at hand that can't be summed up by "red year was bad for vvardenfell, *shrug* no idea what happened with Aryon". But that's just my opinion.... Jeancey (talk) 23:49, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

I think it's noteworthy, wizard lords are known to live a long time so it's not unreasonable to tie the fate of the wizard tower to its wizard. —⁠Legoless (talk) 00:55, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

But we don't know if he has anything to do with the ship itself. I'm fine connecting red year to the fate of the tower to the fate of the wizard, if we didn't have evidence that he didn't die. My issue is with connecting the fate of the SHIP to the fate of the tower. We don't even know if it was coming from Vos or not at the time, considering the journal says "After surviving the Red Year, struggling to dig from the ash and the rubble". If a random dunmer survived, it's also probably that the very powerful lord of the tower survived. If the random dunmer fled, it's very probable that the very powerful lord of the tower also could flee. The ship being named after Tel Vos doesn't really give us any information about Aryon himself. A note about the fate of the tower is possibly appropriate on the Tel Vos lore page, but again, we can't really connect the two except for the name. I just think it's all way too speculative, when there is a much shorter leap of "Red Year probably caused his death" that doesn't involve quite so many hoops. Jeancey (talk) 01:07, 20 August 2020 (UTC)