User talk:NibKing

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Feel free to practice editing in the sandbox or discuss the games in the forums. If you need any help, don't hesitate to contact one of our mentors. Have fun! DG^{Any Questions?} 19:17, 3 November 2013 (GMT)

Edit Summary

Hello and welcome to UESPWiki! Thanks for your interest in the wiki; however, you seem to have been making multiple edits to a page without using the Edit Summary box. We appreciate your enthusiasm, but keep in mind that each edit needs to be patrolled, so edits with no edit summary can make it difficult to ascertain exactly what you are trying to accomplish So please utilize this feature! You may also want to look over our style guide and Getting Started guide. Feel free to ask if you have any questions. Echo (talk) 19:30, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

Quest Walkthroughs

Detailed walkthroughs should not be written as lists. Your edit to MW:Remove the Heads of the Thieves Guild changed prose to a list, which is the wrong way to do it. I don't want to simply undo because I've never played it and you made so many other changes, but please return and redo the walkthrough into prose. Silence is Golden^{Break the Silence} 17:56, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

ok --NibKing (talk) 18:01, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

Edit Summaries

Hey NibKing, could you leave some edit summaries before saving your edit? It only has to be 2-5 words long describing what kind of edit you made, but it will help patrollers a lot of work figuring out what you were trying to fix. Thanks in advance! --Ilaro (talk) 12:26, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

In my experience as an admin on other wikis, excessive edit summaries can sometimes result in lazy page patrolling, for whatever reason, so I prefer to use it sparingly. --NibKing (talk) 13:07, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

Edit summaries do not only provide information for patrollers, but also explain the intent of your edit. So even if you did something wrong it can then be fixed more easily instead of being reverted. It gives clarification and thus less confusion of what you tried to change. Furthermore, it provides an "archive" of the changes that have been made to a certain page in their history section, so editors working on the page 3 years later can still easily check what you have done. --Ilaro (talk) 13:56, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

I understand all that, but I've already provided an explanation. I can see how including a summary might be justified for users who have been problematic or dispruptive, but I've been neither. Asking editors to use an optional feature all the time is unusual and in this case discouraging. Am I free to make edits in good faith without being accosted? I'm not refusing to provide edit summaries, I just don't use it all the time. I don't know anyone who does. --NibKing (talk) 14:36, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

It might not be necessary for minor changes, but huge edits such as this require an explanation as to what you were trying to achieve. For instance, why was the green checkmark removed from the C2_Sunder quest stage? You might have had a very good reason to remove it, , but per WP:FIES there are fewer reasons to assume good faith when edits are left unexplained. —Legoless (talk) 19:03, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

Regarding the C2_Sunder quest stage - The green check mark was removed because simply receiving a bottle of ancient Dagoth brandy from Dagoth Endus does not end the entire quest. --NibKing (talk) 19:10, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

I do agree that I should have left a summary for that particular edit. --NibKing (talk) 19:29, 17 July 2018 (UTC)