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Is it really necessary to have the Dragonborn achievements on a separate page? I know a precedent was set by Shivering:Xbox 360 Achievements, but to be honest I think it's a bad idea. We already have the other add-on achievements listed on Skyrim:Achievements; I propose that this page be converted to a redirect, to keep all the achievements together. —Legoless (talk) 19:27, 4 December 2012 (GMT)

That's what I thought was going to happen when I added the list to the Skyrim page. I think it's the logical thing to do, or atleast have the achievements listed there aswell. - Emoboy64 19:31, 4 December 2012 (GMT)

I also think it would be better to have them all together. At the moment only the Dragonborn ones are separate and unlike with Oblivion even the small DLC without its own name space has achievements. I was about to add them myself until I noticed in the history that they had been moved. — Kimi the Elf ^{(talk | contribs)} 08:51, 13 December 2012 (GMT)

I'm not totally against merging them, but if we do, then the Shivering achievements page has to be moved too. To not do so invites hypocrisy. There is no reason why Shivering should have one and Dragonborn not, and it was the basis for my reasoning that they be separate in the first place. Silence is Golden^{Break the Silence} 19:42, 23 December 2012 (GMT)

I don't have a problem merging the Shivering Isles and Oblivion pages, but it made a lot more sense to split them than it does with Skyrim/Dawnguard/Hearthfire and Dragonborn. —Legoless (talk) 19:45, 23 December 2012 (GMT)

I don't think it does. DB and SI are their own namespaces, while DG/HF aren't. If you are merging DB into SR achievements, then you should merge SI into OB achievements, since it doesn't make sense to have one separate namespace merged and the other not. Jeancey (talk) 19:49, 23 December 2012 (GMT)

But SI was a full-fledged "expansion pack", whereas DG/HF/DB are all "add-ons". Namespace or not, DB isn't much different from DG. Again, no qualms about merging the SI page in the first place, but I don't think it was a true precedent. —Legoless (talk) 19:56, 23 December 2012 (GMT)

(←) Honestly, DB and SI are about the same size. I think SI might have been a bit bigger, but not much. DG had a large quest line, new factions and a few new locations, but no new real land area. Both DB and SI added large amounts of playable area, which I think is the main difference between them and the smaller add-ons. Art is the single largest time sink in a game. My bet is, DB and SI had a similar amount of development time and resources. But I'm getting off topic :) Jeancey (talk) 20:07, 23 December 2012 (GMT)

I disagree completely with the merge. It was already established in CP that DB is an expansion, not a plug-in, and I have seen people change instances of "plug-in" to "expansion" for consistency across the namespace. And that's another thing (which Jeancey already mentioned): DB has its own namespace, and pretty much anything DB-related (mostly) has been documented on its own pages, e.g., Dragon Shouts (although it only has 4) has its own page. I don't see why DB's 10 achievements should be any different. Also, we always strive for consistency across the site, so, since SI has its own page, and we document DB stuff on their own pages (mostly; I know there are exceptions, like passive creatures), I don't think this page should be merged. ~ Psylocke 12:59, 24 December 2012 (GMT)

If we're going to split up the Skyrim DLC achievements, then I'd have to argue for Skyrim subpages for DG and HF. It seems disorganised and confusing to only partially list DLC achievements on the Skyrim article. A redirect in the Dragonborn namespace should be a sufficient crossover. —Legoless (talk) 02:59, 25 December 2012 (GMT)

I'm for merging the Dragonborn achievements with the other Skyrim achievements. — ABCface^◥ 03:51, 25 December 2012 (GMT)

Bump. Any update on this? —Legoless (talk) 16:24, 16 February 2013 (GMT)

My 2 cents, it makes no sense to have 3 of the 4 sets of achievements in one place and not the rest, until coming here I just assumed no one had taken the time to include them yet so the achievements page on the main skyrim page was just incomplete. Also is there any reason you could list them both there, for huge amount of convenience so you can see every possible achievement in skyrim and also on this page, is there a rule against posting them in both places? Lord.Baal (talk) 23:49, 24 February 2013 (GMT)

(←) I've implemented a possible solution, transcluding the ones here to the Skyrim page. This way if someone checks the Skyrim page they see "all" the achievements, and if they look on the Dragonborn page they see only the ones that are added by Dragonborn. Silence is Golden^{Break the Silence} 00:32, 25 February 2013 (GMT)

Nice idea. Solves both problems. —Legoless (talk) 00:56, 25 February 2013 (GMT)

Looks like a good solution to me. I'd be fine with us removing the merge tag at this point. — ABCface^◥ 01:36, 25 February 2013 (GMT)

lol sooo. my solution. nice implementation Lord.Baal (talk) 03:21, 26 February 2013 (GMT)

At the Summit of Apocrypha = At the Mountains of Madness

Since it's clearly obvious Hermaeus Mora and his realm of Oblivion are based on Lovecraft's works, would it be safe to add a note explaining that the quest and achievement are in reference to another of Lovecraft's works, At The Mountains of Madness? --Rezalon (talk) 01:25, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Moved discussion here Echo (talk) 03:00, 28 June 2017 (UTC)